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The New Orleans Hornets, Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets are "hopeful" of reconfiguring their three-team trade to the point that NBA commissioner David Stern signs off on the deal, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com the NBA on Friday afternoon gave the league-owned Hornets clearance to re-open the phones to talk to all teams about possible deals, one day after Stern nixed the trade agreed to in principle Thursday that would have landed Chris Paul with the Lakers.

Yahoo Sports! reported that, as part of that clearance, New Orleans has re-engaged the Lakers and Rockets to try to tweak Thursday's trade, which would have sent Paul to L.A., routed Pau Gasol to Houston and netted three starters for the Hornets -- Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom and Luis Scola -- in addition to guard Goran Dragic and a 2012 first-round pick.

"Yes, we've been given autonomy to make another trade," Hornets general manager Dell Demps told reporters at a news conference Friday night.

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NBA owners revealed themselves to be vindictive, onerous, agenda-driven and spectacularly petty Thursday night when they complained to the point that David Stern, in a gutless move, essentially vetoed a legitimate trade, writes Michael Wilbon. Story

This is the same NBA that was willing to kill an entire season. So it only make sense that the league would nix a trade that represented a pretty good solution to a bad situation, writes J.A. Adande. Story

The questionable decision to nix the Chris Paul trade only helps pave way for Dwight Howard to L.A., writes John Hollinger. Story

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Shelburne: Dangerous precedent
Cuban: Move was justified
Markazi: Stars nearly aligned
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"We're back to work and everything is on the table."

The National Basketball Players Association, meanwhile, has decided not to take immediate action on behalf of Paul, according to sources close to the situation.

The union will instead wait to see if the league-owned Hornets can assemble a trade that the league will approve sending Paul to a destination he welcomes.

If no such trade is made by Monday, sources said, union officials will then consider other options, including litigation.

ESPN.com reported earlier Friday that the teams involved in the blocked deal were lobbying the league in hopes of convincing Stern to reverse the decision and let the trade go through. But it's believed that Stern is unlikely to change his mind unless changes are made to the original three-team framework.

"I wish he stayed [in New Orleans]," Demps said of Paul. "I'm not going to lie about it. But it is what is."

In a statement released Friday, Stern said the "final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the commissioner's office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling."

"All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets," Stern said. "In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade."

There is no formal appeals process to reverse the ruling. The teams, however, have been lobbying the NBA reconsider all day Friday.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank said Thursday the deal was blocked for "basketball reasons."

The primary argument being presented to the league office for allowing the deal to go through -- as agreed to in principle by the Hornets, Lakers and Houston Rockets -- is that the NBA's decision would appear to force the Hornets to keep Paul for the rest of the season, despite the fact he can opt out of his contract and become a free agent July 1 and leave New Orleans without compensation.

A trade of Paul elsewhere, according to the teams' argument, would mean Stern and the league are choosing where Paul would play.

The proposed trade would have sent Paul to the Lakers, Pau Gasol to the Rockets and furnished New Orleans with three top-flight NBA players in Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Lamar Odom as well as playoff-tested guard Goran Dragic and a 2012 first-round pick that Houston had acquired from the Knicks.

Odom said he was disoriented by the deal and didn't know how to proceed. It looked as if he had made up his mind to stay away from training camp, but he did end up showing Friday, albeit more than an hour late.

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"Man, I'm just in total disbelief about all of this," Odom said Thursday. "They don't want my services, for whatever reason. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I was proud to be a Laker, so I'll try to help them in the process as much as possible."

The general reaction among rival executives was that Demps did as well as he could under the circumstances after Paul told the Hornets on Monday he would not sign a contract extension and instead planned to become a free agent July 1.

But Stern stepped in to nix the swap and leave all three teams with shell-shocked players and officials heading into Friday's start of training camps, after the commissioner insisted for months that Demps and the rest of the team's front office had autonomy over basketball decisions. Sources close to the situation said Demps and teams that have pursued Paul had been assured the Hornets had the clearance to trade Paul as they saw fit.

In an email to Stern obtained by Yahoo! Sports, The New York Times and Cleveland Plain Dealer, Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert called the proposed deal "a travesty" and urged Stern to put the deal to a vote of "the 29 owners of the Hornets," referring to the rest of the league's teams.

Numerous sources close to the process expressed skepticism that the deal has a chance of being revived, amid a growing sense the league is now determined to keep Paul in New Orleans for an unspecified length of time -- perhaps even for the entire season -- to support the notion that lockout wasn't for naught and that the new labor deal has improved small-market teams' ability to retain star players.

The problem there, of course, is that the Hornets -- believing they had avoided the drama that engulfed the Denver Nuggets for months last season until they finally traded Carmelo Anthony -- are left with a disgruntled star who can still opt out of his contract and leave the franchise with nothing as of July 1.

Stern's decision to block the deal has likewise raised the question of whether New Orleans can trade Paul anywhere until a new buyer for the team is found, because any deal that does go through could create the appearance that Stern hand-picked the destination.

Outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, who voted against the NBA's new labor deal, agreed with the league's reversal, saying it would have been hypocritical coming hours after the CBA was ratified.

"The message is we went through this lockout for a reason," Cuban said Friday on ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM's "Ben and Skin Show." "Again, I'm not speaking for Stern. He's not telling me his thought process. I'm just telling you my perspective, having gone through all this. There's a reason that we went through this lockout, and one of the reasons is to give small-market teams the ability to keep their stars and the ability to compete."

Cuban has been trying for years to trade for Paul but said he would have understood the league's decision to deny a trade even if the Mavericks would have agreed to a deal to get Paul.

"I mean, obviously, I wouldn't have been happy, but I would have understood because it was a conversation a lot of owners had long before the Laker deal was consummated," Cuban said. "It was like, 'Look, sure, I'd love him. Give him to me in a heartbeat.' But the whole idea of the lockout was to prevent stuff like that.

"Players will always have the right to choose what they want to do as a free agent, but the players agreed to rules that said, 'You know what? Let's give the home team, the incumbent team an extra advantage.' And that's how the rules were designed. I think they're going to work."
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Power play from his agency. The same group that reps the Miami big 3 and Melo.
 
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this is becoming a joke...
 
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IMO Stern is gonna milk the Lakers for a couple draft picks to clear the deal... if this doesnt all just reak of conflict of interest....
 
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what would our draft pick situation be next year? I dont remember what we retained and what got shipped.

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what is the point of this thread?
 
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what is the point of this thread?
Pls rookify OP, kthxbai.

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"There's a reason that we went through this lockout, and one of the reasons is to give small-market teams the ability to keep their stars and the ability to compete."
This is a ridiculous position for Cuban to take, especially in this situation. CP3 has a lot of leverage here, as he's paid his dues and will be a FA soon. After the season, he has the right to simply walk away, and the Hornets will get NOTHING in return, thereby setting the franchise back years. How exactly does that help the Hornets' "ability to compete," pray tell?

Forcing Paul to stay in NO this year won't solve anything, nor does it send a message to anyone (other than the fact that NBA owners are petty, spoiled brats).

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Make the Lakers include picks and take back bad contracts, Let the Rockets keep their pick.

Lakers get Paul, Thabeet and Ariza
Rockets get Gasol
Hornets get Scola, Martin, Dragic and a 1st from LA.

Rockets can then amnesty Flynn and save more money!

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Scola, Martin, Dragic and a pick is way too much. Scola, Flynn, T-Will and a pick. If we get Gasol, we would need Martin.
 
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Is Gasol TWICE as good as Scola? ..,cause he gets paid MORE than double Scola, theyre the same age.... plus were gonna give up an upper level SG, our BU pg and a first rd pck for the priveledge of paying double to Gasol... I still dont get it...
And if its to sign Nene to the contract he's gonna command... we're idiots...
 
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Is Gasol TWICE as good as Scola? ..,cause he gets paid MORE than double Scola, theyre the same age.... plus were gonna give up an upper level SG, our BU pg and a first rd pck for the priveledge of paying double to Gasol... I still dont get it...
And if its to sign Nene to the contract he's gonna command... we're idiots...
He doesn't need to be twice as good as Scola. There are more players involved in the trade, so comparing their contracts to one another is rediculous.

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(Hold off Nene!!!)
 
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Is Gasol TWICE as good as Scola? ..,cause he gets paid MORE than double Scola, theyre the same age.... plus were gonna give up an upper level SG, our BU pg and a first rd pck for the priveledge of paying double to Gasol... I still dont get it...
And if its to sign Nene to the contract he's gonna command... we're idiots...
Gasol has one thing that Scola doesn't - height. There is a premium put on skilled big men, especially Gasol.
 
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Make the Lakers include picks and take back bad contracts, Let the Rockets keep their pick.

Lakers get Paul, Thabeet and Ariza
Rockets get Gasol
Hornets get Scola, Martin, Dragic and a 1st from LA.

Rockets can then amnesty Flynn and save more money!

That's just a funny thought, Ariza back to the Lakers.

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Did you guys read gilberts letter? Lakers save 40 million over the next 3 years with this trade
 

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