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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...lows-today-nba

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...Internationally, the league has never been stronger: It's the only American sports league that attracts stars from every corner of the world. Digitally, the league has been light years ahead of everyone else, embracing the revolution and staying ahead of the curve with social media and video content. It's also spent the past two decades carefully (and successfully) selling mostly black players to a mostly white audience, an ongoing conundrum that nearly submarined the league in the late-'70s and early-'80s. Throw in a killer 2011 Finals and everything looks fantastic on paper … except for the part that the league is losing money.

Unlike the NFL, they opened the books and showed everyone exactly how much: $300 million. Why are they losing money?

1. The economy tanked and fans don't have the same disposable income.
2. The secondary ticket market lessened the need to buy season tickets; you can just cherry-pick 10 regular-season games online and skip the other 31.
3. We're slowly learning that fans would rather stay home, watch sports on their crystal-clear HD widescreen and surf the Internet over hauling their asses to a stadium, then pay for (overpriced) parking, (overpriced) mediocre food and drinks, and (overpriced) mediocre tickets.
4. Every state-of-the-art arena built in the past 15 years was built to accommodate as many fans as possible, when actually we're learning this decade that things might need to shift the other way: You need fewer seats, you need as many good seats as possible, and you need to figure out a way to engage fans who aren't close enough to the court (like the Cowboys did with their obnoxiously brilliant video screen).
5. Typing this sentence makes me feel like I'm typing the words, "Michael Cera just beat up one of the Klitschko Brothers," but it's absolutely true: Billy Hunter beat David Stern on the last two labor deals.

You know how I know this? Because the players made $2.1 billion dollars this year … and again the owners lost $300 million. Hold on, I have their $300 million right here: Vince Carter ($17.5m), Richard Hamilton ($12.5m), Baron Davis ($13m), Jose Calderon ($9m), Gilbert Arenas ($17.7m), Rashard Lewis ($19.6m), Michael Redd ($18.3m), Matt Carroll ($4.3m), Mike Dunleavy ($10.6m), Jason Kapono ($6.6m), Andrei Kirilenko ($17.8m), Marvin Williams ($7.2m), Jared Jeffries ($6.8m), Vlad Radmanovic ($6.8m), Hedo Turkoglu ($10.2m), Boris Diaw ($9m), Marcus Banks ($4.8m), Joel Pryzbilla ($7.4m), TJ Ford (8.5m), Darius Songalia ($4.8m), Andris Biedrins ($9m), Yao Ming ($17.7m), Sam Dalembert ($13.4m), Memo Okur ($9.9m), DeSagana Diop ($6.4m), Jermaine O'Neal ($5.7m), Eddy Curry ($11.2m), Dan Gadzuric ($7.2m), Troy Murphy ($11.9m). Boom! Everyone on that list ranges from "violently overpaid" to "brazenly stole money and hasn't been arrested yet."1

You tell me: Should a professional sports league be stuck in a situation in which T.J. Ford is guaranteed $8.5 million, and Peter Holt (owner of the Spurs, the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference this season) is guaranteed to lose $8.5 million or more? Probably not. They need to fix it. Hunter's team agrees, to a degree: They're fine with shortening long-term contracts (you will never see one longer than four years again), and they're fine with making it more difficult for stars to jump franchises (even if it means abolishing the sign-and-trade rule). They're even fine with giving back a little money, as well as the owners' plan to frame Lewis and Arenas for murders so they can void their contracts.2 It's just about finding middle ground. If the players made $400 million less last season and the owners shared revenue with each other a little better,3 everyone would have made money. On paper, this seems really, really, really, really, really, really simple...
 
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Here's a trade that makes sense: Bosh to Dork Elvis' Rockets for Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry, and Patrick Patterson. God, I'm gonna miss the Trade Machine if there's a lockout.
You've got to be kidding me. Only good from that would be watching Luis and Kyle win rings.
 
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I only came here to say Bill Simmons is a ****ing tool.
 
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You've got to be kidding me. Only good from that would be watching Louis and Kyle win rings.
Is he trying to screw over the Rockets? No way am I giving up both Scola AND Kyle AND Patterson for Baby Bosh.

Scola, Brad Miller and a pick tops. Scola will be as serviceable for them as Bosh is, Brad is an expiring after this year and a pick to help them stock up young talent. I would rather keep Patterson at this point.

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You've got to be kidding me. Only good from that would be watching Louis and Kyle win rings.
Yeah, that's a horrible trade for the Rockets. They give up a legit starting point guard, and a young prospect at PF for a slight upgrade at the starting PF spot.
 
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No way this can be true:

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ABC & ESPN: Don't tell anyone, but if there's a Game 7, Disney makes an extra $110 billion (all numbers approximate). You might see everyone on Dallas foul out in Game 6. I think Tyson Chandler already has 2 fouls and the game doesn't start for another 48 hours.
 
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yeah i'm having a hard time believing that as well. i mean, tyson chandler and the mavs being called for fouls? come on, now.

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I think Simmons' ego has jumped 10 fold ever since ESPN thought it'd be a good idea to give Simmons his own website. One example:

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Dirk Nowitzki: He's already propelled himself into the top 20 and a permanent "Barkley, Malone or Nowitzki?" discussion; he's erased any lingering scars from the 2006 Finals and 2007 Playoffs; and he's clinched "one of the best clutch scorers of his generation" status. But if he wins the title with a bunch of role players? That nudges him up a level; now we'd have to discuss him with Julius Erving, Bob Pettit, John Havlicek, and maybe even Tim Duncan as one of the Greatest Forwards Ever Not Named Larry Bird. However it plays out, he's already the biggest winner from this series. You can't say enough about Dirk Nowitzki.
You. Have. Got. To. Be. F***ing. Kidding. Me. Dirk's a Top 5 POWER forward to be sure no matter what the outcome is in this year's Finals (barring a gigantic choke by him) but to say he's on the same level as Duncan? WOW.

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Scola+Patterson+Lowry. That is insane and no. I would do that for John Wall or Kevin Durant, but barely.

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Scola+Patterson+Lowry. That is insane and no. I would do that for John Wall or Kevin Durant, but barely.
You have high standards, my friend.

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the NBA demanded Kyle Lowry and Patrick Paterson be added to Houston’s offer. Now, the Rockets had been told five of their top six players were needed to get Gasol in a trade.

F*** you David Stern
 
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Has anyone ever seen Dirk play defense?

Didn't think so.

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I think Simmons' ego has jumped 10 fold ever since ESPN thought it'd be a good idea to give Simmons his own website. One example:



You. Have. Got. To. Be. F***ing. Kidding. Me. Dirk's a Top 5 POWER forward to be sure no matter what the outcome is in this year's Finals (barring a gigantic choke by him) but to say he's on the same level as Duncan? WOW.
Tim Duncan is criminally underrated. He's always mentioned as the greatest PF ever, but few people mention him as a top 10 all-time player, and somehow Kobe leapfrogged him in most people's all-time list despite the fact that TD has done more with less throughout his career.
 
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I think Simmons' ego has jumped 10 fold ever since ESPN thought it'd be a good idea to give Simmons his own website. One example:



You. Have. Got. To. Be. F***ing. Kidding. Me. Dirk's a Top 5 POWER forward to be sure no matter what the outcome is in this year's Finals (barring a gigantic choke by him) but to say he's on the same level as Duncan? WOW.

To be fair, he said MAYBE.

Duncan had Robinson, Ginobili, Parker, and Bowen. Dirk is doing it now with the 2nd best player being, uh, Terry? Marion? A 38 yo Kidd?

Just saying.... but yeah, he's only excelling on 1 end of the floor.

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I thought that 3 in LeBron's grill was Maxwell-esque

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Agree with him or not, Bill Simmons is one excellent writer. If he were born in Soviet Russia, he would have been Stalin's personal biographer.

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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...errifying-lows

As a footnote in his column on the NBA's momentum and stature being squandered in a lockout, and the implications of the Heat possibly losing the finals, Simmons wrote on the possibility of Bosh being scapegoated

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Here's a trade that makes sense: Bosh to Dork Elvis' Rockets for Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry, and Patrick Patterson. God, I'm gonna miss the Trade Machine if there's a lockout.
Now, I'm as big a fan of Simmons as ANYONE, but good lord would this trade be terrible for the Rockets.

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NO!!!!!! That would be a terrible move!
 
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