Neither is Big Ben, frankly. First of all… Fitzpatrick? FITZPATRICK?!! Are you a Bills fan? I know a good chunk of this is subjective... but Ryan Fitzpatrick is NOT among the 2nd tier of NFL QBs. I’m sorry. He’s not. Neither, frankly, is Andy Dalton, who had a nice rookie season but was average by NFL standards. And you’re vastly undervaluing Phillip Rivers – that guy’s elite. His numbers are astounding. I’d switch him and Roethlisberger. He’s lacking the opportunity. That’s it.
give rodgers houston's 2010 defense and let's see how clutch he is. He would probably manage a mediocre record of 6-10. Nah, Aaron would never allow that record, not while ranking top five in passing yards and touchdown. Never!
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2012/1/...manning-still-isnt-healthy-expected-to-retire But what if he WAS healthy????
“The Cowboys have never been about checkered tablecloths and boots and hats,” Jones said. “They’ve been about glitz and glitter. Leave the other stuff to the Houston Texans.” - Jerry Jones So the Cowboys are self described as non-working class, non-cowboy sparkling glitter pansies. LOL reminds me of a t shirt my ex has, REAL TEXANS dont let their kids grow up to be Cowgirls !!
so if the colts thinking about getting rid of him, why the texans would risk to dismember this team (not re-signing mario, trading schaub, not getting a WR or CB in free agency) If peyton is 80% healthy, why not let him play 1-2 years, instead of having a rookie QB starting in his first year.
he could be in a neck brace all his life and some fans would still criticize the Texans for not going after him.
Because he can't throw http://www.indystar.com/article/201...olts-Peyton-Manning-unlikely-resume-QB-career http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...over-colts-neck-surgery-jim-irsay-andrew-luck
There is nothing you can do to stop the all out boner Manning gives certain posters here. I think it's like battered wife syndrome, he's beat us so much over the years they just look past all the facts and reality.
I don't know why all of you are in a tizzy over Peyton. Eli is the real QB in that family. Soon to be 2 rings to 1. That means he's better. 2 > 1. Nuff said. Pwn3d.
nobody in their right mind would ever say matt schaub is better than peyton manning. by the way, keep posting the speculative links about manning retiring...manning basically just said on sportscenter that he will be playing, and chris mortensen just said that people who think he's "risking paralysis" if he plays again have no clue what they're talking about and are ill-informed.
Haven't read through all of this but I still don't understand the logic here. We can't afford Peyton and Schaub, therefore Schaub would be gone. People are willing to risk it on a guy who's 36 and even if healthy is on the decline. We'd have a two year window, max, and who knows if he'd even make it that long. Haven't we been through enough as Texans fans (and Rockets fans with Yao) to not want to risk that? I think we would have been in the Super Bowl this year with Schaub. Let's make a run at it again next year before getting desperate.
Medically cleared meaning he's not risking re-injury, not that he'll be able to throw again at an NFL level much less Peyton Manning level.
Yeah, this news today is one hell of a PR stunt from Peyton's team. ESPN and the like have no choice but to buy into it because it generates interest and clicks, but the reality is that nothing's changed. Manning's neck fusion was successful, and we know that. That's why he was allowed to practice in December. The question comes down to nerve regeneration and whether he can gain the strength to throw a football at any kind of significant velocity. He isn't close right now. Peyton wants to play and knows that if he can, he needs to market himself because he'll be a free agent. To have the most options possible, he needs to offset the ongoing rumors of his demise/impending retirement, and that's what today's "leak" is designed to do. In reality, though, his challenge is every bit the same today as it was yesterday. We're no closer (that I know of) to finding out whether he can do it.
this post is all sorts of bizarre. forget the fact that you are talking with such certainty and from the point of view of colts team doctor/insider/irsay confidante, but do you really think that any team would sign him solely based on today's information and without doing their own research and seeing him throw the ball first??
Will Carroll: "Peyton being cleared is not news. We knew this when Watkins cleared him in November. Just more media fodder." https://twitter.com/#!/injuryexpert Bob Kravitz (Indy Star): "Peyton's neck is fine, the issue is performance. The issue is whether he can throw the football." https://twitter.com/#!/bkravitz John Clayton: "While Peyton Manning remains optimistic about his return, people in the Colts org. aren't as certain because of nerve in neck and triceps" https://twitter.com/#!/claytonespn Tom James: "Nothing new from ESPN report on Peyton Manning being cleared. He was cleared to practice back in December. Nerve regeneration always issue." "Media in Indy has known that PManning's neck fusion surgery successful and that the nerve regeneration was the biggest problem. Nothing new." https://twitter.com/#!/TribStarTJames Nothing's bizarre here - just do some research without an agenda. Also, learn basic reading comprehension skills. No one's going to sign him based on this information alone. Didn't say that. You routinely have these weird all-or-nothing reactions. Manning is trying to combat the narrative that he can't physically recover by turning the topic of conversation to his likelihood of return. It's a slow and steady process that's going to go on for a month, until Irsay finally cuts him loose in March. Until then, they're each trying to be politicians and spin discourse in a manner that suits their long-term interests. Just a very small part of a big process.
my reading comprehension skills are pretty pretty nice. did really well on that component of the SAT's and whatnot. you didn't say that teams would sign peyton based on today's - you clearly implied it. your post implies that you are seeing directly through this PR stung put out by team peyton, while at least some nfl gm's won't, thereby gaining him "the most options possible". so while you know this is a ruse, he will benefit by it, and will have more options than he did if it weren't released. and this is because some teams will be too stupid to see through it, and will be suitors for him based on today's information. sorry, but that is unquestionably what you were implying. so, like i was saying, IN MY OPINION, a very bizarre post. but what do i know? i'm just a dummy who doesn't understand what i read.
I was implying that it was a small part of the overall strategy to get him more options, as opposed to there being no response to the rash of recent stories about his likelihood of never playing again. I in no way said that any one individual act was going to be the difference. Nothing is that cut and dried. By the way, aren't you the one convinced that the Texans sabotaged their season by sticking with T.J. Yates and refusing to consider outside options? Haven't you blasted Kubiak for this, using your incredible knowledge of the situation? Given your track record and willingness to criticize, I don't think you get to play the "teams know too much" card.
Irsay, of course, has a different take: JimIrsay Jim Irsay Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts. Team statement coming on Friday. Few tweets this morning from NFL writers: evansilva Evan Silva Manning camp likely leaked he was cleared so teams hear, stay interested. He knows he'll be cut. Colts still want medical excuse to cut him. JeneBramel Jene Bramel PR battle b/t Manning/Irsay fascinating. Heart isn't in these body blows. Feel both want to throw haymakers, but pulling punch at last sec. PhinsDaniel Daniel Eliesen We have a full PR war on our hands between @JimIrsay and Peyton Manning Yes, it's all kinds of bizarre to think there's a PR war between Irsay and Manning, and that Manning's camp leaked the information to combat the long line of "Colts' sources" claiming medical reasons for his eventual cut. No one could ever think such a thing!
