Dekker isn't anywhere near the talent Rudy Gay is my friend. Atleast we know Gay will give us some scoring and ball handling at the SF/PF position. It's sad because Dekker will have one good game and you guys will overhype him to be the face of the franchise like you did DMo. Even sadder you'll find out the hard way that neither aren't nearly as good as you thought
I'd love for Rudy Gay to join this team, but I wouldn't trade anyone in the top seven spots of the rotation to make it happen.
Gay would make us a fun team to watch. Rudy Gay would make the rockets a top 4 seed imo if we don't give up any starters.
I think have gay off the bench as a scorer, even if ineffecient, would be a great piece to have. I've never been a fan of his game, but if your looking at it in a cost perspective, than its totally worth it. Using him as a 6th or 7th man off the bench, for the cost of something like brewer and kj, than what's the harm? He's clearly an upgrade over both and even better is he is expiring, or you can make him agree to exercise his PO prior to trade. Risk vs reward is clearly in favor of acquiring the talent. Removing brewer and adding gay to the rotation is a clear! Upgrade. Also allows ariza to not play 40mpg. Dew eet moarie
Rudy Gay is not very good, but this team had worse players taking a good number of shots last year, which is an area where we can improve. Last year, Lawson / Smith / Brewer were taking a combined 20 shots a game, that is nearly one fourth of our total shots per game (83.5 fga/g), and hitting them at a sub 40% clip. Now Lawson and Smith are already gone, but if you just replace Brewer's production (7 shots at 48% TS'ing) with Gay (7 shots at 54% TS'ing), that is a noticeable improvement. What you have to be mindful of, is Gay getting chuck happy and taking the ball out of Harden's hands, which would be a huge no-no. If you could dump Brewer, and maybe 2 seconds for Gay, its a worthwhile trade. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Yup it all depends on what we give up. I wouldn't give up any starters, Gordon, Capela, or D Mo (if we can help it).
He'll never be confused with an efficient scorer, but with a TS% of 55.6% and 53.8% the last two seasons, he'd be around the Beasley, PBev, Ariza levels. If you could (1) keep Gay's usage around 20% (which would be the lowest of his career, as he is typically 22%-28%), (2) while having a TS% of 55% or higher hopefully by indoctrinating him into the 3's and layups offense (he took 250 shoots between 3 and 10 feet, 136 shots between 10 and 16 feet, and 137 shots between 16 feet and the three point line... all too many really) (3) and by having him create less for himself and be more a beneficiary of assists (he was assisted on 66% of his layups/dunks and 82% of his threes, but 47% or less on those in between shoots, including only 37% on his 3 feet to 10 feet shots... which means he was often trying to create offense for himself, getting "kind of close", and shooting a shot ... which, btw, was his least efficient offense, with an eFG% of only 38% - yikes!). Then offensively he'd be a great fit. While that's a lot of "ifs"... they are ifs that seem to on paper fit with this Rockets team and offense and coach. Interestingly, the Kings ran a lot of possession per game, so its unlikely Gay would benefit offensively from more possession per game or anything.
in 2k i simulated a season after trading for Rudy Gay we ended up being the 2 seed with 58 wins and we lost to warriors in Conf Championship in 5 games. in a side note Cavs beat Warriors in 7 again
You guys haven't learned anything? Fit/chemistry is what we need. Even more so than talent at this point as we already have enough "ifs" with a new coaching staff, half the roster change, etc An ineffecient chucker on the down slope who has been malcontent with past teams is not acceptable.
Yep, Gay for BBHolic's main man, RR! http://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/21/12986772/rudy-gay-trade-rumors-sacramento-kings-problem Rudy Gay is an old school player in a new school league 16 Finding a trade partner that could actually use Rudy Gay’s skill set will be tough, but there may be hope for him yet in a different city. By Tom Ziller @teamziller Sep 21, 2016, 9:55a TWEET Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images Rudy Gay washed the taste of Toronto out of everyone’s mouth almost immediately upon arriving in Sacramento in late 2013. Most of the world focused on the Raptors’ sudden rise when released from the yoke of Rudy’s bricks, and rightly so since his timely exit launched Toronto into the upper tier of the Eastern Conference. But Gay finished that 2013-14 season quite strongly with the Kings, offering up efficient supplemental scoring and solid all-around play next to DeMarcus Cousins. Gay followed that up with a strong individual campaign in 2014-15, becoming a rare symbol of stability within a turbulent franchise that fired two coaches and a general manager while alienating its superstar. Early that season, Gay signed an extension with Sacramento that would keep him around until at least July 2017. That season and a half produced the best scoring numbers of Gay’s career: 20.6 points with a .561 True Shooting percentage. By comparison’s sake, Gay’s True Shooting percentage over six-plus seasons in Memphis was .526. In a year in Toronto, it was a disastrous .497. Next to Boogie as a clear-cut No. 2 option for a season and a half, Rudy Gay finally found the best possible version of his game. During that season and a half, in games in which Gay played, the Kings went 46-77 for a winning percentage of .374. The best possible version of Rudy Gay was the No. 2 scorer for the equivalent of a 30-win team. This is the problem with Rudy Gay: He is a scorer only, and an old-school, mid-range scorer at that. He’s not in any sense a point-forward, he’s not an elite defender, and he’s not a dead-eye shooter. If he is your No. 2 scorer and you don’t have a world-class team defense, your team is going to stink. If he’s your second-best player overall, you are in a world of hurt. *** On Monday, The Vertical’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported that Gay had told the Kings he will opt out of his contract next summer. Gay confirmed this to local reporters almost immediately, citing the salary cap boom more than dissatisfaction with the franchise. Something else that Woj reported was that Gay does not plan to consider re-upping with the Kings a year from now. One would hope the feeling is mutual, given Sacramento’s deep roster issues. You can’t blame Gay for failing to feel the love in the River City. The Kings have been trying to trade him all summer, and he was on the block as far back as the trade deadline. Gay has really done nothing wrong, and in fact has been the model co-star in terms of temperament and leadership. It’s just that his game doesn’t work for the Kings, and it’s not clear exactly where it will work in the NBA at this point. How many elite teams have a small forward who is not of a lockdown defender, top-flight playmaker or above-average outside shooter? The Raptors spring to mind (Gay is not going back to Toronto), and the Thunder now fit that definition after the loss of Kevin Durant. How many small-ball power forwards can’t rebound or truly stretch the floor? They don’t make top-tier forwards like Rudy Gay any more, and that’s not a compliment. Of all the players who have been pushed aside by the new NBA focus on ball movement and outside shooting, perhaps Gay is ground zero. The comparison with fellow Baltimorean Carmelo Anthony comparison has always been interesting; like Gay, Melo does his best (and most frequent) work inside the arc. The difference is that Anthony is a prodigious scorer, one of the best of his era. Gay can’t carry that kind of load. You can’t imagine Gay averaging 25 points per game, let alone 30. He doesn’t have the moves to do that every night. Toronto is a perfect example: Gay was the No. 1 star there, took more shots than ever and topped out around 20 points per game. He’s not Melo, who can survive and thrive in this new NBA. Gay, in his current state, cannot. So what’s left? Is Rudy Gay doomed to be a decent player on bad teams forever? *** Hope for Rudy Gay lies in two prospects. The first is to find a place on an elite defensive team that has a top-drawer scorer and just needs some mid-range/slasher/post help. The Utah Jazz would work if the Jazz’s top scorer weren’t also a small forward. The Atlanta Hawks could work, assuming the Horford-to-Howard swap and loss of Jeff Teague don’t undercut the defense. The Boston Celtics, strangely enough, work on paper. The second situation that could work for Gay is to land him on a team with two dominant scorers already in place. This would necessarily shift him into more of a supplemental role. The L.A. Clippers match this idea. So would have the Oklahoma City Thunder, pre-Durexit. (Lots of internet people seem to be pitched on a Gay-for-Enes Kanter idea, but Gay with Russell Westbrook and a number of deferential role players is a bad idea for any team that values shooting efficiency.) The San Antonio Spurs could make it work if Gay played power forward between LaMarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard. But to me, the best place for a guy like Rudy Gay is Minnesota. Tom Thibodeau is going to have that team in defensive shape quickly, especially with Karl-Anthony Towns in the middle and Andrew Wiggins up top. Towns is already a fine scorer who can work inside and out — he’s a lower-consumption Boogie Cousins on that end, really — and Wiggins and Kris Dunn project to be solid scorers in their own right. Gay could, in theory, be a No. 2 scorer for now while Wiggins and Dunn develop, then he could fade into more of a supplemental role. The Timberwolves aren’t competing for anything but pride just yet, and Gay is smart enough to see the long-term upside of the franchise (as well as the power of Thibodeau). This could totally work. The Kings have desperate need of a point guard. Ricky Rubio may well be on the outs after the Wolves drafted Dunn. The salaries are a near-perfect match. Nothing will make Rudy Gay an NBA star in this new basketball paradigm. But he could be far more useful far away from Sacramento. Spinning him away to a new home would be good for him and good for the Kings. The trick is just finding a different team it’d be good for, too.
This still have a chance at happening? He would fill out the 2nd rotation nicely. Gordon and Gay with either Dmo or Anderson coming off the bench is pretty darn good.
