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Sources: McHale using Sampson's absence as an excuse for poor defense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Apr 24, 2014.

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thephatp said: ↑

I'm not a big McHale fan, and there were definitely things he could have done better. You can say the same for Harden, as well as others. In fact, you could probably find blame on just about everyone on the team to some degree.

But let's be honest, any number of small changes and we would have won these two games. Would you still be complaining then?

In both of these games, the Rockets didn't play their style of offense that they have thrived on all season. I think this is for a number of reason, like trying to go to Dwight more than normal, taking mid-range jumpers when outside shots were available, not getting out on fast breaks, etc. But ask the question--Why?

Here are some of my observations:

Harden is shooting 30% from the field for the series so far

Aldridge is shooting 60% for the series so far

Houston shot 23% from three in the first game

Houston shot 19% from 3 in the second game

With Aldrige hitting a large number of his shots in mid-to-long range 2, that didn't allow Houston to get out on the fast break as often--Portland was spaced out well and not many near the basket, which means players are too far down court after a make to really get an speed.

Since Houston wasn't hitting their outside shots, why not try some mid-range shots?

Think about it this way--late in game 2, we're down by a couple of baskets and Harden pulls an ISO--blame Harden. Wait, but there was no movement of other players, so he didn't really anyone open to pass to--blame the others on the floor. But wait, McHale didn't tell them to move the ball--blame McHale.

You can argue any number of these points and place blame on whoever you want.

I agree Harden should be shooting better. This timing is unfortunate.
I agree that Houston hasn't been playing their style of play. Numerous reasons here.
I agree Howard shouldn't be refusing to do P&R b/c it's been really successful.
I agree that the team looked dejected and defeated the last half of the 4th quarter, even when they got close.
I agree McHale should have made adjustments, period.
I agree that the team should be shooting better from 3 (we live or die by it).
I agree that we shouldn't be taking mid-range shots. Gotta make outside shots.

Just realize that if ANY of these things would have been different we WOULD have won Game 1 and LIKELY would have won Game 2.

We've played terribly, and we've nearly won both games, while Portland has played quite well (though Batum has not really shown up).
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Sorry, these are problems that have plagued this team the whole season

In the playoffs especially with teams that are not that far apart, its coaching that makes the difference.

Any coach worth a damn can get at least ONE of the first two home games based on adjustments

But McHale is not a good coach

When the Rockets get swept, I doubt you will be back on this board defending this guy
#381 ApuN, Apr 25, 2014

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Interesting fact:
In game 2, LMA (in-the-zone, dominating LMA) played only 36 minutes.
Harden, 44 minutes.

Harden played frantic and made bad decisions in the 4th Q. It was hard to watch at times. You know what, he didn't sit at all in the second half. He played 24 of the 24 minutes.

LMA? He sat in the 4th Q from 12:00 to 6:31.
(And, yeah, Portland had the lead, but it was only a 6 point lead when LMA sat.)

Coaching matters.

#382 steady, Apr 25, 2014
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Sources: I'm starting to believe OP has no sources.
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thats because you are either 12 and/or brain dead

#383 megastahr, Apr 25, 2014
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When Houston was down 0-2 to Phoenix the roar of bad coaching by Rudy was legendary. I was there. CH's point is well taken. We are in the same place today. Too many fans turn like rabid dogs. If McHale is not re-signed it'll improve Harden's shooting by 30% of course. Ridiculous. And Lin will think about what he's doing BEFORE jumping into the air. Naturally.

McHale hasn't had a turn over yet, so there's that.
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You McHale bitter-enders

Please come back this board and defend this guy after the Rockets get swept

Please do, we will all need a good laugh at that time

#384 ApuN, Apr 25, 2014
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Do you see any other players in the team that completely gave up and didn't make much efforts when the coach decided to change their roles or reduce their minutes? Its called not being professional and not a team player. In contrast to what he thinks, he is not bigger than the team. Acting like a baby in playoff games when getting frustrated? The problems with having 'super stars' is the media tend to hype them up so much. Its bad when even the players started to believe the hypes. People start to believe Harden and Dwight are the best in their positions. That Bev can shut anyone down. Parsons thinking he is the 3rd star. Everyone playing hero ball. Well now, the emperor has no cloth and the reality bubble has burst.
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Simmons described why the Pacers might be breaking down. I feel this reason also might be why the Rockets don't have a true team identity where everyone is on the same page.

30 PERCENT: Pat Riley named it “The Disease of Me,” a chemistry-killing toxin that afflicts certain teams after they’ve hit it big. Once you start winning, everyone wants more money, more shots, more attention, more everything. What’s weird about the Pacers: This happened BEFORE they hit it big. It’s like they created a new strain called The Preemptive Disease of Me. But you know the nuts and bolts by now: Lance Stephenson thought he was an All-Star, Paul George thought he was a superstar, Danny Granger disappeared, the big guys stopped getting the ball … before you knew it, a selfless team started thinking selfishly.
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http://grantland.com/features/nba-playoffs-2014-33-burning-questions-from-round-1/

#385 yummyhawtsauce, Apr 25, 2014
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yummyhawtsauce said: ↑

Simmons described why the Pacers might be breaking down. I feel this reason also might be why the Rockets don't have a true team identity where everyone is on the same page.

http://grantland.com/features/nba-playoffs-2014-33-burning-questions-from-round-1/
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also want to add, not to that extent, I feel the rockets are a much closer team in terms of friendship that's why I feel there is hope.

#386 yummyhawtsauce, Apr 25, 2014
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ApuN said: ↑

Sorry, these are problems that have plagued this team the whole season

In the playoffs especially with teams that are not that far apart, its coaching that makes the difference.

Any coach worth a damn can get at least ONE of the first two home games based on adjustments

But McHale is not a good coach

When the Rockets get swept, I doubt you will be back on this board defending this guy
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You don't think the games have been close enough to go either way? Or your own qualifier is really not important because you just want him gone?

Maybe McHale could make different decisions and maybe it would work and maybe no, and maybe the refereeing has been atrocious at times (across the boards for both teams, but make no mistake, we've lost both games by a slim margin of execution errors on the floor.

I guarantee we will not get swept, and if we don't, I doubt you'll credit McHale.

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yummyhawtsauce said: ↑

Simmons described why the Pacers might be breaking down. I feel this reason also might be why the Rockets don't have a true team identity where everyone is on the same page.

http://grantland.com/features/nba-playoffs-2014-33-burning-questions-from-round-1/
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I agree. But you know how you break that? JVG. You make their butts work harder than before in practice. You want it, you have to prove it. This coaches still aren't exempt from this.

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I agree. But you know how you break that? JVG. You make their butts work harder than before in practice. You want it, you have to prove it. This coaches still aren't exempt from this.
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It's not just about practice *cue Iverson quote here* - but the coach has to instill strong discipline into the team and let them play to their strengths. A well oiled machine.

If you look at the really great teams, Spurs, Heat, Thunder - they all have players that know their role well.

I've always thought of a team like a well managed company. You all have a job to do, but everyone has their strength's and weaknesses. In order to deliver or finish that project or hit that sales target - you gotta be able to be placed in a position for the 'team' to succeed. but **** happens sometimes - maybe a deadline is moved up, or there's some mess up and people have to react and step up to fix, which is needed.

#389 yummyhawtsauce, Apr 25, 2014
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ApuN said: ↑

Sorry, these are problems that have plagued this team the whole season

In the playoffs especially with teams that are not that far apart, its coaching that makes the difference.

Any coach worth a damn can get at least ONE of the first two home games based on adjustments

But McHale is not a good coach

When the Rockets get swept, I doubt you will be back on this board defending this guy
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Dude, don't take my post as defending him. All I'm saying is people are blaming McHale, people are blaming Harden, some people are blaming Howard, etc, when really, you could place blame just about anywhere, and turning any of those things around would have changed the outcome.

I just didn't want people focusing on what I think of McHale, Harden, etc. My opinions of him are better left for another post!

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You don't think the games have been close enough to go either way? Or your own qualifier is really not important because you just want him gone?

Maybe McHale could make different decisions and maybe it would work and maybe no, and maybe the refereeing has been atrocious at times (across the boards for both teams, but make no mistake, we've lost both games by a slim margin of execution errors on the floor.

I guarantee we will not get swept, and if we don't, I doubt you'll credit McHale.
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Lol...that was pretty funny. Nicely said.

#391 thephatp, Apr 25, 2014
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You McHale bitter-enders

Please come back this board and defend this guy after the Rockets get swept

Please do, we will all need a good laugh at that time
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In your rush to label me you seemed to miss the point of the post completely.

Where in any post during this series have I said McHale was a great coach ?

Where did I ever say he shouldn't be shown the door if this team collapses in a sweep ?

Rudy was vilified in the same way McHale is now being roasted.
The loss of Sampson is a significant loss. Are you too angry to say that ?
Rudy was labeled a players coach who favored certain players. Rudy was called a dumb coach who couldn't do anything but roll the ball out on the floor. And every one of those idiots were dancing in the streets a few weeks later.

So if by some wonderful basketball miracle these guys pull it together and even the series, YOU can come back and get your knee, it fell off when you jerked it too hard.

Go Rockets !

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In your rush to label me you seemed to miss the point of the post completely.

Where in any post during this series have I said McHale was a great coach ?

Where did I ever say he shouldn't be shown the door if this team collapses in a sweep ?

Rudy was vilified in the same way McHale is now being roasted.
The loss of Sampson is a significant loss. Are you too angry to say that ?
Rudy was labeled a players coach who favored certain players. Rudy was called a dumb coach who couldn't do anything but roll the ball out on the floor. And every one of those idiots were dancing in the streets a few weeks later.

So if by some wonderful basketball miracle these guys pull it together and even the series, YOU can come back and get your knee, it fell off when you jerked it too hard.

Go Rockets !
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Since you are such a maven, you do know Rudy never freakin went 0-2 when he had home court in the first round?

McHale is a moron and should be shown the door when the final buzzer sounds as soon as these chumps get swept

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Just fire McHale already.

Then pursue either Stan Van Gundy or George Karl this off-season.

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ApuN said: ↑

You McHale bitter-enders

Please come back this board and defend this guy after the Rockets get swept

Please do, we will all need a good laugh at that time
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As I figured. No comment, eh. Guess you'll have to root for them to get swept some other series.

#395 CrazyDave, Apr 26, 2014
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As I figured. No comment, eh. Guess you'll have to root for them to get swept some other series.
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They didnt get swept - big whoop

I bet you were sweating bullets and breaking wind in those final seconds and in O.T.

They are still down and still will lose this series

#396 ApuN, Apr 26, 2014
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Sources: I'm starting to believe OP has no sources.
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#397 jbasket, Apr 26, 2014
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Weak excuses my Mchale is true. You are the head coach, you lose your defensive coach then you need to hold the players accountable. He should be in a position where the players know the difference between Coach Mchale and friend Mchale.

Life your game Mchale.

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They didnt get swept - big whoop

I bet you were sweating bullets and breaking wind in those final seconds and in O.T.

They are still down and still will lose this series
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You sound like you are rooting for this to happen.

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ApuN said: ↑

Since you are such a maven, you do know Rudy never freakin went 0-2 when he had home court in the first round?

McHale is a moron and should be shown the door when the final buzzer sounds as soon as these chumps get swept
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eh, it's hardly indicative, we never had home court much at all? 3 times in a decade or something with 6 or 7 first round losses in a row, choke city was a way worse situation.

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