Paul Ryan: Obamacare repeal is first priority under Trump

No matter what, they'll have to come up with something. If it's bad, they'll pay for it in the mid-terms just like Democrats did after passing the ACA. If it's good, that's great for everyone. I'm sure we'll hear more about what they plan on doing in the coming months.

 

Obamacare won't last 4 more years even if left alone, it'll collapse on itself within 2 years so something has to be done before then.

 

I know what it was like before Obamacare. My premiums were half the cost, my deductibles where half the cost, I could keep my doctor[/because my insurance plan was not dropped every year, my network was vastly bigger. And yes, I know I was in my twenties and I was healthy.

I am not going to deny there is a problem with pre-existing conditions. This has to be fought by reducing costs throughout the entire industry. A saline bag should not cost a couple grand. Ibuprofen should not cost $50 a pill.

Even though more people are covered, a good percentage of them can not afford the deductibles. Whats the point of paying a premium if you can't pay to use the service?

 

If they just provide a public option, everything is solved, lol.

 

So double down on the failed ACA with something more expensive and worse? Nah, they'll probably not go that route.

 

LOL, no **** sherlock, welcome to the healthcare conversation.

Now that, presumably, the GOP has succeeded in repealing Obamacare, what is the GOP's plan?

Reducing costs is not a plan.

 

Of course they will not go down that route because that would be the first step to a single payer system, especially if it is successful.

 

compromised with whom? no Republican voted for any part of Obamacare. They compromised with Republicans on a plan none of them wanted? and they gave up on the plan they really wanted (single payer) to get those 0 votes? wtf are you talking about. If I wasn't so lazy, I would love to go to the AMA thread and see what you liberals said about it when it passed. I'm sure you were all saying 'this is a disaster, but at least we compromised' .....

 

I guess I never noticed any difference these past few years while being employed through a hospital. The deductions from my paycheck bi-monthly never went up. My healthcare options were limited to Seton facilities but quality of care never went down. I think my co-pay actually went down if I ever needed to see a specialist. Was in my 20s, now 30s and still healthy.

Anecdotally a best friend and co-worker of mine got diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer and had to stop working because of it. A gaffe was made by HR that caused his long term disability benefits to cease and lose his employee based health insurance. He wasn't denied coverage from the healthcare market despite his pre-existing condition for the few months he needed it to continue chemo and radiation treatments. Eventually the gaffe was fixed. Ultimately my friend passed away since the cancer was already so advanced but it actually was through Obamacare he was able to resume treatment upon losing his employee based health insurance. He wouldn't have been able to do that unless he applied for government based health insurance programs like MAP in Travis County.

 

You do understand that the framework of Obamacare was built by Romney right.

 

In what way does that change the fact that no Republican supported it and there was never any compromise made between Democrats and Republicans? If one wing of the Democrat party compromises with another wing of the party and they agree on something sort of similar to what a Republican did for his state, that's not compromising with Republicans.....you do know that right?

 

you didn't answer the question. Who did the Democrats compromise with if no republicans voted for it? What did they get for their compromise? Also they passed it without any Republicans help so WHY would they compromise? they clearly didn't need to.

Also the framework for Obamacare was built by Gruber. You remember the prick bragging about how stupid you are for being duped by him? The same guy telling you Obamacare is working exactly as it should be.

 

Feel free to interpret my posts with the words "The plan that Romney / Gruber devised" rather than compromise, since you guys seem to take exception to the word.

 

It still means that you lied when you said "Democrats wanted single payer", they didn't, they wanted what they chose to go with without any Republican input or support. Just because Obamacare was a colossal failure just like everyone said it would be doesn't mean you can blame it on others now. At the same time, Republicans can't pretend like what they do with healthcare reform was something Democrats wanted if it gets no Democrat support.

 

The individual markets are sick and have high utilization of emergency rooms and prescriptions. Unlimited maximums have led to an enormous influx of hospitals charging massive fees against the insurance. The number of multi million dollar claims has ballooned. The high prices and lack of a biting penalty keep people that are healthy out of the market all together which accelerates the death cycle.

Nobody in the industry believes there will be an individual market in 18 months under the aca

 

while we are throwing your version of history under the bus, remember this quote from you?

i thought you and all your cool friends knew how awesome Obamacare was gonna be? what happened to that? Now you claim it sucks because they compromised? Please feel free to keep enlightening us all about the healthcare industry you know so much about. Yea your last super awesome plan blew up in a few years, but this time you have a really good idea...... we should probably keep ignoring all those idiots with the 'funny reports' who said OBamacare would crash and burn.

Lets try this approach lars. You thought Obamacare would be good and now you admit it sucks. What lessons about the healthcare industry did you learn from this mistake? why do you think you got Obamacare so wrong?

 

Pretty much all the big insurance companies: UNH, AET, ANTM, CI, HUM profits have gone up over the past three years.

 

Yawn...wake me up when they start taxing employer paid insurance as income. I'm tired of subsidizing my employees and them not even knowing how much it costs. Everyone should share the pain. THEN we'll see real change, one way or another.

 

I am glad Obamacare will be gone. Sorry to the 20 million people who will lose coverage. And sorry to the 50 million who's premiums will sky-rocket with the lack of downward price pressure, but everyone hates Obamacare anyway so if they have a problem with it they can just talk to Paul Ryan.

 

Exactly, a point of a publicly traded company is to maximize profits.

Sad part is that the GOP/Trump doesn't have much of an option besides a watered down version of ACA after probably 8 years since the signing of ACA.