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Paul Ryan: Obamacare repeal is first priority under Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. MojoMan

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    Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announces that the repeal of Obamacare will be the first priority of the new incoming Congress under Donald Trump.

    Horray! What great news. Of course the repeal should be pretty easy and the real task will be passing a healthcare reform plan that actually works this time. Here is looking forward to them doing it.
     
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    I am actually kinda happy about this. Sad for all the people that will lose coverage, but this is put up or shut up time for Conservatives when it comes to healthcare. The catastrophic aftermath will leave no one to blame but themselves.
     
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    Unless the Democrats block the replacement bill, in which case it will be on them.
     
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    Yup, let's see what they put up after the repeal. If they can keep preexisting condition and out of pocket max, the rest does not matter too much, I wonder if the insurance companies will agree to that.
     
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    Nope, it'll be on Republicans for repealing Obamacare and not getting the replacement bill passed. It's on the ruling party to get bills to pass. We can't always blame everything on the Democrats, doesn't that get tiring? Wasn't it the GOP that blamed Obama for all the things he couldn't get to pass?
     
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    The Republicans will have House, Senate, Presidency, and supreme court. So they have no excuses. If they repeal it we will see what happens to a lot of people. I think Obamacare is terrible, but the republicans aren't going for single payer, but their actions hopefully wakes people up so we go to single payer.
     
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    This is obviously Ryan's top priority, but Trump did not run with this as his.
     
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    There are 13 red-state Democrats up for reelection in the Senate in 2018. It will be interesting to see if they share your intransigent and obstructionist perspective. I suspect that a number of them will not.
     
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    Ryan and Trump seems to be pretty far apart on what the replace will be. Preexisting condition is the main one. It will be interesting what Trump will do.
     
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    Wait, what? Where in my post did I say what the Democrats should or shouldn't do?

    I just find it funny that you are already shifting blame to the democrats after 8 years of blaming Obama for getting nothing passed. At some point your party will have to step up to the plate and take some responsibility. The GOP has all 3 branches of government. This is on them now.
     
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    Absolutely. If you repeal, you damn are responsible for the replace part.
     
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    What is Trump going to do, veto it?

    Trump will have some input on this, but he will not be calling the shots. Nor do I believe that he really wants to on this.
     
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    Will not be calling the shots? What do you know that we don't? Maybe Trump doesn't give a damn about this. I doubt anyone know. Will be interesting to see what happen. What we do know is what Trump has said is different from Ryan's plan.
     
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    Trump cares about his image and by extension will care about how this is perceived. This is all on the Democrats to win the war of public opinion. Trump will sway with the wind on virtually everything. The man has no firm opinions on anything.
     
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    Sounds like Ryan is suggesting a repeal and replace in a single bill. Is that not the case?

    I think it'll be irresponsible of Republicans to do a repeal of Obamacare without a concurrent replacement. It'll be too hard to marshal the votes if they are separated. Of course, I'm sure there is a faction at least that wants exactly that -- a repeal with no replacement.

    Anyway, if there is a replacement bill put to vote, I think they'd be able to get enough acquiescence from Democrats for it to pass. Democrats really can't afford to look obstructionist on healthcare. They might dicker a little to get better terms, is all.

    I look forward to this glorious future Ryan has promised us of relief as fast as possible from our healthcare costs. I'm sure he has a miracle pill that will make state-of-the-art healthcare affordable and widely available.
     
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    I actually want to see if GOP will dare to do a repeal and no replacement, just to see if people actually care about such things as preexisting conditions and out of pocket max like I do.
     
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    I suspect that there are not enough House Republican votes to pass an ACA replacement.
     
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    Then we will see if there are enough people who care about this to vote out the GOP during the mid term.
     
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    Well there were enough people who cared about the negative effects of Obamacare to vote out the Democrats the first available opportunity after the ACA was passed, so maybe.
     
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    Let me get this straight:

    Democrats pass Obamacare on a straight party line vote against the dire warnings coming from conservatives and despite many, many protests from average americans all over the country.

    Obamacare fails just about exactly the way Democrats were warned it would.

    Republicans finally get in power and promise to repeal it and replace it with something different.

    Democrats assume (want?) it to fail so they can say "Nya, Nya I TOLD you so!!!"

    SMH
     

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