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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Yellow

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    Thibodeau might leave Bulls, if he becomes available, I want him!
     
  2. THE DR34M

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    Thibs! Fark yeah! I'd love to see this team play his brand of bball and put out the effort and energy he demands on defense.

    If Coach Thibs is available we should definitely hire him and fire McHale straight away. C'mon Morey! Get this done and you'll solidify your legacy in producing a championship team!
     
  3. Rip Van Rocket

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    It probably will go over 500 pages, because McHale isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and because of the intense hatred of McHale because of his treatment of Lin and because he is viewed as a racist by some Clutchfans.

    However, It should be noted that all Rocket coaches are thought to be bad coaches after a short period of time by the geniuses at Clutchfans.

    Why can't the Rockets ever have a good coach?

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    Fire Van Gundy
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  4. torocan

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    There's lots of talk on Chicago radio right now that Thibs may walk/ask to be let go if they blow the team up.

    Apparently he doesn't have the patience for a rebuild.

    Thibs to Houston!
     
  5. jtr

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    The grass is always greener ...

    And how do you think Coach Thib is going to handle Morey's incessant meddling, especially with the assistant coaches? Does not sound like a match made in heaven to me. And I don't believe Morey is going to give up the degree of control he currently has over the coaching staff.
     
  6. Nook

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    Riiight......

    So the rotations will be about the same, and the starters will play even more minutes?
     
  7. Nook

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    Thibs already heads his front office because they want to limit starter minutes and make trades for the long term good of the franchise. There is no way that he fits with the Rockets and their managerial style.

    Thibs wants a GM that does what he says, not the other way around.
     
  8. torocan

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    There's a difference between giving up a high degree of control to McHale (no track record) and Tom Thibodeau (EC finals, acknowledged top 5 HC in the NBA, arguably the best defensive coach in the NBA).

    I might not let a 17 year old kid drive my car, but I'd sure let Mario Andretti have a spin...
     
  9. Merovingian

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    There is a chance McHale will stay in the Rockets but not as head coach or in the coaching team.
     
  10. HoopFan

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    I wanted him to stay with Rockets when JVG resigned. I remembere Yao had nothing but good words about him and really wanted to be the head coach after JVG. Not sure if that bridge has been burned or not since we didn't even give him an interview chance.

     
  11. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    Seems like the whole Morey meddling thing would have been more of an issue pre-Dwight, when we were accumulate currency/trade assets mode.
     
  12. jtr

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    Morey got rid of Adelman, considered a top NBA coach, because Rick would not do what Morey wanted. And that is why a coach like Thib won't be hired by Morey.
     
  13. torocan

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    I don't think Adelman and Thibodeau are fair comparisons.

    Tom Thibodeau is an analytics guy...

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/stor...ibodeau-blinders-approach-works-chicago-bulls

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/tag/analytics/

    As for Rick Adelman...

    http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Adelman-won-t-return-as-Rockets-coach-1690569.php

    Different coaches, different times.
     
  14. jtr

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    Well I will admit that Thib has finally embraced the Rockets R&R offense. But Morey and Thib seem like two very stubborn men. I just don't see them getting in bed together, so to speak.
     
  15. torocan

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    I think Morey would be more tolerant of a guy who's stubborn over Numbers than a guy who doesn't believe in Numbers. At least Morey and Thibs would understand each other's points of view versus someone who is opposed to looking at Analytics at all.

    And if Morey wouldn't be willing to give a top 5 Head Coach a try, especially when they're into Analytics, then I'd be wondering if Morey was on drugs.
     
  16. ZNB

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    Is there any proof that Adeleman got fired because he wouldnt do what Morey wanted? From everything Morey says he never tells the coach what to do with the players. Isnt it more likely that the owner didnt want to pay a high price for a coach when we were no where near conteding?
     
  17. Nubmonger

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    Thibodeau is a much better coach than McHale, but his biggest problem is currently McHale's biggest problem - he runs his key players into the ground. There's a very good case to be made that if Thibs actually managed his players' minutes better, the Bulls would've been to at least two Finals by now (and potentially won a championship).

    The irony is that player minutes is probably the easiest thing a coach can manage; all you have to do is give each player a hard limit and then you're forced to make better decisions about when and how long they play in a given game.
     
  18. jtr

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    I believe that what every NBA head coach struggles with is wins versus playing time. Unfortunately it is not a hard science. No obvious right or wrong answer exists.
     
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    As usually happens on CF I am disagreeing about Morey's and McHale's motives and relationship. Morey is the NBA's statistical guru, views himself as a competent NBA coach, and McHale may be the finest "Leader of men" since Phil. We are seeing a new demarcation of the lines separating the GM and the coaching staff. It seems to be working don't you think?
     

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