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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    You are an idiot. Of course the largest cities in America would have the most cases. It wouldn't matter who their mayor was, especially when the President took no National stance. Add in the Republican Governors of states like Texas, Florida, and Georgia who wouldn't allow the mayors to enforce stricter lockdowns or laws.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    The people who see through Trump's BS aren't dumb. The majority. They will vote out the Psycho.
     
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  3. Invisible Fan

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    You're free to read the entire article.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...s-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air
    As it evolved, Kushner’s group called on the help of several top diagnostic-testing experts. Together, they worked around the clock, and through a forest of WhatsApp messages. The effort of the White House team was “apolitical,” said the participant, and undertaken “with the nation’s best interests in mind.”


    Kushner’s team hammered out a detailed plan, which Vanity Fair obtained. It stated, “Current challenges that need to be resolved include uneven testing capacity and supplies throughout the US, both between and within regions, significant delays in reporting results (4-11 days), and national supply chain constraints, such as PPE, swabs, and certain testing reagents.”

    The plan called for the federal government to coordinate distribution of test kits, so they could be surged to heavily affected areas, and oversee a national contact-tracing infrastructure. It also proposed lifting contract restrictions on where doctors and hospitals send tests, allowing any laboratory with capacity to test any sample. It proposed a massive scale-up of antibody testing to facilitate a return to work. It called for mandating that all COVID-19 test results from any kind of testing, taken anywhere, be reported to a national repository as well as to state and local health departments.

    And it proposed establishing “a national Sentinel Surveillance System” with “real-time intelligence capabilities to understand leading indicators where hot spots are arising and where the risks are high vs. where people can get back to work.”

    By early April, some who worked on the plan were given the strong impression that it would soon be shared with President Trump and announced by the White House. The plan, though imperfect, was a starting point. Simply working together as a nation on it “would have put us in a fundamentally different place,” said the participant.

    But the effort ran headlong into shifting sentiment at the White House. Trusting his vaunted political instincts, President Trump had been downplaying concerns about the virus and spreading misinformation about it—efforts that were soon amplified by Republican elected officials and right-wing media figures. Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.

    Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.

    Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

    That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said.​

    Face masks (not PPE) https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/09/17/usps-trump-coronavirus-amazon-foia/
    The records also offer fresh detail about the Postal Service’s precarious position in the White House’s early pandemic response. At one point in April, USPS leaders drafted a news release announcing plans to distribute 650 million masks nationwide, enough to offer five face coverings to every American household. The document, which includes quotations from top USPS officials and other specifics, was never sent. But it suggests that the government’s initial interest in tapping the Postal Service as part of its campaign to combat the coronavirus may have been far more advanced than initially reported this spring.

    The Postal Service declined to discuss its specific dealings with the White House, Treasury Department or Amazon about its plans to distribute masks or its finances. David Partenheimer, a USPS spokesman, stressed in a statement that the agency is “firmly committed to being a source of constancy and reliability in every community.” The Postal Service later demanded in a letter that American Oversight remove some of the documents it had shared publicly online, citing the fact some of them had been improperly released.

    [Read the scrapped USPS announcement to send 5 masks to every American household]

    Trump gets every governor to praise him anytime the Fed sends them relief. I like thanks when it's less coerced and needy, but flattery gets you everywhere.
     
  4. deb4rockets

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    Its like the FBI or CIA showing Trump evidence on Russia, Trump asking Putin, Putin denying it, then Trump believing Putin over American intelligence officers. Same with the Trump cult. He lies, the press or witnesses show proof it's a lie, Trump calls it fake news, and his cult believes him. The problem is he repeats this cycle like a broken record over and over, and they still believe his words as gospel. Its so Jim Jones like that it's scary.
     
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  5. RayRay10

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    Trump loses in Nevada:

     
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    Vanity Fair?

    Yep, when Trump comes through for them they tell the truth. When he stands up against them they spy on him.
     
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    Some big Dem cities were worse than others.

    New York/Chicago

    Vs Houston

    Can you guess why? If you want to have a discussion show some intelligence in your posts instead of going to the name calling card. It shows that you have trouble debating.
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    I'm guessing it has to do with this:
    Houston population density:
    3,842 people per square mile

    NYC population density:
    27,000 people per square mile

    Unfortunately @deb4rockets might be correct with his claim that you are an idiot. I'm sorry.
     
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    My business is doing much better under Trump than it ever was under Obama/Biden. If I can get four more years like the last four years I will be very close to retirement and pretty well set up for retirement. Plus I dont understand why anybody would vote for a POTUS that promises to raise your taxes. (Up to 4 Trillion dollars tax increase? Pass) That's nothing more than a socialist attempt to redistribute wealth. Something Obama/Biden did very well last go around and something the voters corrected by electing Trump. You get to spend more of your money under the Trump admin vs a Biden/Harris ticket that want you to give more of your hard earned money to the govt so they can redistribute it, spend it however they want too instead of you spending it the way you want to spend it.
     
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    I'm guessing putting infected people in nursing homes had more to do with the deaths than what you posted. Bad leadership anyway you look at it.
     
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americ...s-pay-a-lower-tax-rate-than-the-middle-class/

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    This is why anecdotes like these can't really say much. There are so many confounding factors involved. Let's discuss specific policies you believe helped you.

    I f you want to know why so many are drifting towards socialist solutions, this is one reason why.
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    No...

    I believe having bear 9 times the population density is a larger confusing factor than the nursing home incidents.
     
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  13. raining threes

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    Just curious how many people do you know that have died from the Covid-19? How many people do you know that have contracted it? What field do you work in?
     
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    I've said my peace and I know the last 4 years have been very good for my family. We moved from lower middle class to the lower end of the upper middle class through hard work good decisions and policies that were pro business. BTW, I've added 2 new employees in the last two years.

    Real life experiences, vs cute graphs.
     
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  15. Invisible Fan

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    Yep, Vanity Fair.

    Don't like reading eh? Seems like Deb's got u pegged. :oops::(

    One last ostrich call
     
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    So that was a coincidence that nearly 50,000 of the 200,000 died in New York Nursing Homes? OK
     
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    I read the article

    Tell me has Vanity Fair ever written a Pro Trump article?

    A Pro Conservative Article?

    Nope
     
  18. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Middle class shouldn’t expect tax hike.

    Biden tax plan reduces tax for lower income earner and raises tax for top earner (400k+).

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-bidens-tax-plan-might-affect-five-american-households-11599739200
     
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  19. Invisible Fan

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    Sounds like hurt feelins. I don't know when Woodward ever wrote a Pro Trump article, but his stans were busting his balls for not revealin Donny's "Big Lie" earlier.

    I guess that's another standard for another day.

    You asked for proof and it weren't blogs. You got two more wishes.
     
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  20. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Top 400 paying a lower effective tax rate than both bottom 50% and bottom 90%. I’m not sure who think this is right, fair or sustainable.
     
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