Name the PGs in the NBA that are better than Ty Lawson

Curry, CP3, D-Rose, Westbrick, Parker, Rondo........ and Lin

 

of all the starting pg's lawson is probably ranked right in the middle of the pack out of 30.

assuming good health in no particular order CP3, curry, rose, wall, westbrook, irving, rondo, lillard, parker.

after this ill group pg's like dragic, conley, lowry, lawson together

 

Name the worse ones:

Lin.

 

Lin can take all of them in math.

 

Jeremy Lin

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You're criminally underrating Lowry.

He's the 4th best point guard in the league right now, only behind Westbrook, Curry and CP3.

 

I don't watch a lot of basketball other than the Rockets, and I'm not particularly gifted at the eyeball test for defense. Still, just looking at stats (which obviously only tells part of the story), I have to wonder why Irving, Conley, Lowry, and maybe even Wall are so obviously ahead of Lawson. When I think of point guards, I think of guys like Rod Strickland - guys who get in the paint and create offense. In my limited analysis, the following three stats somewhat measure a PG's ability to create offense. Notice I didn't include 3PT%. To me, that's a finisher stat. Your studs like a Lawson or a Harden draw the double team that allows an open man to hit a 3 point shot. Anyway, this is my limited analysis:

- Assists per 36 - Lawson had the highest of these 5 - 8.8 per 36 last year!
- FTA / FGA - Lawson's ahead by alot. This is one of my favorite stats period;
- Finishing (FG% within 3 feet of the basket) - all five are pretty comparable.

So, given this, why are these other four guys on another tier than Lawson? Does Lawson suck at defense? I know Kyrie sucks at defense, so I think ranking him higher is questionable.

 

Lawson doesn't do anything spectacular. He racks up higher assists because he's VERY quick and in a floor race nobody touches him, but he doesn't have playmaking abilities that Irving, Curry, Westbrook and so forth have. Nor is he a great shooter like Curry and Lillard. Or a great defender like Conley. He doesn't have the passing skills of Rondo. Tony Parker just has qualities that really no other PG in the league possess, really the engine of that incredible Spurs offense. Lowry is an absolute warrior on the court, puts everything on the floor, tough as nails and great defender.

Lawson has speed but is usually only effective in the open court, thus he depends on fast breaks to showcase his best asset, his speed. He's small too and while not a terrible defender, could never be great defensively.

All around solid point guard but could never touch the top tier of guards.

 

Nothing wrong with where I placed Lowry. I like Lowry a lot actually. All those pgs especially the first nine are amongst the elite. He hasn't jumped that high yet as far as top 5 but Hopefully he can make his first all star team this year.

 

Kyrie isn't better than Lowry, Conley, Lawson, or Dragic.

Having a flashy game =|= being an elite pg.

 

Well, Raptors may end up with the best record in the league, just beat a really good Memphis team, and have a roster on paper isn't amazing. Lowry makes that team better which is what its all about.

 

Agree but still got a long way to go before the season is over. Way too early to tell right now. And on paper their roster is actually pretty solid. They have players that can play

 

May I ask the OP what prompted this thread?

 

he can get into the defense and probe in and out..

which no one on this team currently does..


harden is either shooting a stepback, a 3, or going full steam to the bucket..

 

Offensively, he's very good, but not $11m good. Defensively, not great and he's also 5'11". I can only think of a handful of PGs I would pay $10m+ and he is not one of them.

 

Why would Denver trade Lawson?

They need to dump like 6 guys off that team before they'd even consider moving him. He's still a building block. They need to figure out the direction they're going in as an organization but usually the answer is not to first trade your best player to figure out that direction.

 

This. With one caveat ....being ... unless said best player wants out of current situation/starts demanding trades.