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Lucky Charm is offline Old 02-24-2013, 01:42 PM   #1
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The Houston coach calls his playmaker “a home run hitter,” and doesn’t mean that in a good way.

“Sometimes he’d rather have 29 points and nine turnovers and I tell him, ‘Jeremy, we’re trying to win,’ ” McHale said.


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Seriously though, this comment was made by Coach McHale stood out and I want to know what you guys make of it.
This comment comes the day after the win over OKC when Jeremy got 29pts on 22 shots (most taken on the team).
Do you guys think he shoots too much?

Is this why he's hesitant to keep shooting even when he's got his shot going, trying to focus more on playmaking? I personally find it frustrating (no, not because I want my "precious" Lin to get his points) but I know that's his game, in NY he was very unselfish but you better believe he was always looking for his own shot

I don't know, Coach McHale confuses me.

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Now everyone is going to hate on Mchale for being hard on Lin. Pop did the same thing with Parker throughout his career and now look at him.

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He is either has to shoot better or less. 52 TS% isn't going to cut it, especially when you have such an efficient teammates.

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Confirms what perceptive Rockets fans have seen all along and what LOH brush off as ramblings by LOF, that McHale is telling Lin not to play his aggressive style of game and instead play a Derek Fisher role.
 
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Its not about shooting. Its about decision making. Sometimes Lin makes dumb decisions. He dribbles into a crowd of people with nowhere to go and picks up his dribble.

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The Houston coach calls his playmaker “a home run hitter,” and doesn’t mean that in a good way.

“Sometimes he’d rather have 29 points and nine turnovers and I tell him, ‘Jeremy, we’re trying to win,’ ” McHale said.


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We need more Lin threads 'round here
Seriously though, this comment was made by Coach McHale stood out and I want to know what you guys make of it.
This comment comes the day after the win over OKC when Jeremy got 29pts on 22 shots (most taken on the team).
Do you guys think he shoots too much?

Is this why he's hesitant to keep shooting even when he's got his shot going, trying to focus more on playmaking? I personally find it frustrating (no, not because I want my "precious" Lin to get his points) but I know that's his game, in NY he was very unselfish but you better believe he was always looking for his own shot

I don't know, Coach McHale confuses me.
dont understand why this confuses you....

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YaoMac09 is offline Old 02-24-2013, 01:54 PM   #7
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Should aim for 29 points and 3-4 turnovers!

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The Houston coach calls his playmaker “a home run hitter,” and doesn’t mean that in a good way.

“Sometimes he’d rather have 29 points and nine turnovers and I tell him, ‘Jeremy, we’re trying to win,’ ” McHale said.
I don't think McHale understands that most turnovers on "home run" plays are just like a missed shot. Old school guys can't get around that concept. Turning it over in the backcourt, though, is awful since it usually leads to a high % shot for the other team.
Getting your teammate a 100% FG attempt followed by a turnover is the same as getting your teammate 2 50% looks.
Ultimately of course the good PGs get those home run plays and limit their turnovers. But the idea you don't turn it over and play safe isn't sound.
 
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The Houston coach calls his playmaker “a home run hitter,” and doesn’t mean that in a good way.

“Sometimes he’d rather have 29 points and nine turnovers and I tell him, ‘Jeremy, we’re trying to win,’ ” McHale said.


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We need more Lin threads 'round here
Seriously though, this comment was made by Coach McHale stood out and I want to know what you guys make of it.
This comment comes the day after the win over OKC when Jeremy got 29pts on 22 shots (most taken on the team).
Do you guys think he shoots too much?

Is this why he's hesitant to keep shooting even when he's got his shot going, trying to focus more on playmaking? I personally find it frustrating (no, not because I want my "precious" Lin to get his points) but I know that's his game, in NY he was very unselfish but you better believe he was always looking for his own shot

I don't know, Coach McHale confuses me.
WTF with 9 TO's - where did that come from? The most Lin ever had in a game was 7 and the Knicks won. Those two do not conflict with each other. I am confused by McHale too.
 
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WTF with 9 TO's - where did that come from? The most Lin ever had in a game was 7 and the Knicks won. Those two do not conflict with each other. I am confused by McHale too.
*Not including that infamous Miami game that is.
 
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I wonder if by home run plays McHale's referring to those full court football passes that Jeremy never connects on.

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He is either has to shoot better or less. 52 TS% isn't going to cut it, especially when you have such an efficient teammates.
52% true shooting percentage isn't bad at all. It's not great but it's certainly not to the point where you're saying "shoot less".
 
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Its not about shooting. Its about decision making. Sometimes Lin makes dumb decisions. He dribbles into a crowd of people with nowhere to go and picks up his dribble.
This.

Context is key here. McHale made those comments after the Nets game, in the context of Lin being "a home run hitter".
McHale isn't accusing Lin of actually being selfish, but rather being too careless.

I already commented on this in the Fire McHale thread:

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Ball movement and execution was an issue last night and you could see/hear McHale asking his players multiple times to stop forcing the issue and move the ball.

Just after he did McHale again had voiced his displeasure with the lack off ball-movement, Lin and Parsons again tried to make things happen on their own, resulting in back-to-back turnover.
McHale subsequently took them out, subbing in Beverley and Anderson.

Lin didn't have a good game at all and there's nothing wrong with McHale's criticism of Lin. It's totally fair. There's a fine line between being aggressive and being careless.
Lin was careless last night and generally has a tendency to be so.
Obviously you want him to be aggressive and attack, but he has to learn to be more opportunistic.

Now, whether or not you want McHale to be as frank about it is another story, though I for one think Lin is secure enough in himself to take it. Obviously, that's just an opinion and you can feel free to disagree.
 
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I wonder if by home run plays McHale's referring to those full court football passes that Jeremy never connects on.
Uh.. Exaggeration much.. Those passes are usually 50 50 and if successful
Is basically a 90% guaranteed shot. He needs to keep making those passes.
 
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Confirms what perceptive Rockets fans have seen all along and what LOH brush off as ramblings by LOF, that McHale is telling Lin not to play his aggressive style of game and instead play a Derek Fisher role.
Right, why did we get Lin again??? Dude was never a spot up shooter
 
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52% true shooting percentage isn't bad at all. It's not great but it's certainly not to the point where you're saying "shoot less".
It's not terrible, but it is the point where you say shoot less, because it's below league average.

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I always gave Mcfail and Sampson the benefit of the doubt but after this comment, I think we should just trade Lin. He will never be used the right way in this team.
 
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Illness or not, I think McHale's comment has a lot more to do with Lin's performance in the last two games.
 
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Lin needs to do throw some tantrum like Lowry and get himself traded. Better for both rockets and for Lin.
 

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