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kjayp is offline Old 03-26-2012, 03:40 PM   #41
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[url] trade Martin + 2nd round pick for Josh Smith .
What world are u livin in? If we coulda made that trade it woulda been done at the deadline... lol
I want Smith, and have wondered if Scola or Kmart (in 3 way) + Bud or Morris or PPat + a least 1 first round pick would get it done... i still dont think its enough to get Atl to pull the trigger... lol not to mention theyre already paying a sg 18M with 4 more years on his contract...

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Pulling for Bucks to get this win. With Amare out indefinitely, it'll definitely hurt the Knicks' chances of getting that 8th spot.
 
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http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft

Package off the NYK pick (Could be any # of players usually after 15 & that leaves Henson, Zeller, Jones, White), Klye Lowry, Sign & trade Goran Dragic + sweetener either MAVS pick or Patterson. .. ...

To Who?

The Brooklyn Nets. For Deron Williams

Hypothetically speaking let's say we thrown in Patterson & keep the pick seeing that Humprhies is a FA this year & they could use another pf. Especially one already developed, cheap salary, & is just seeking significant time & opportunity to continue development into a productive player. No need to weigh out pros & cons for either team both teams become instantly better.

We still have the MAVS pick to reload the frontcourt or backcourt. Use the MAVS pick on Mason Plumlee. Allowing D-Mo to continue to develop overseas for another year, however if we bring him over that can lead to another chain of events (amnesty Scola & trade Martin + 2nd round pick for Josh Smith), changing our Plumlee pick to. .. …

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/marquis-teague

We can either bring over LLul (from my limited understanding on his buyout seems pricey next year) this seems highly unlikely though. Seeing he doesn’t want to be under a rookie contract & if he waits one more year he wouldn’t have to be under that pay scale. So let’s say he stays another year.

We possibly have two second round picks - I say address backup pg issue here (unless D-Mo comes over & we draft Teague in the first round with MAVS pic) with

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/myck-kabongo.

Potential line ups (option A)

D-Will/Kabongo
Martin/ Lee(resigned)/Bud
Parsons/Morris
Scola/Plumlee
Bear/Camby

(Option B)
D-Will/Teague
Lee(resigned)/Bud
Parsons/Morris
Josh Smith/D-Mo
Bear/Camby

Option A is more realistic. I honestly don’t see us amnestying Scola this year.
Option B is more of one of my fantasies I would like to see come into fruition. Really is a reach but feasible.
This can't happen and won't happen.
 
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Update:

After games played on March 26, 2012


NYK Pick
-15th overall (Would be 13th if NYK not in playoffs)
-NYK ranked 8th in East
-Belong to HOU

HOU Pick
-16th or 17th Overall
-HOU ranked 8th in West
-Belong to NJN

Dallas Pick
-21st overall
-DAL ranked 5th in West
-Belong to HOU

Summary: If season ended today, HOU would have 2 picks, 15th overall and 21st overall.

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Update:

After games played on March 26, 2012


NYK Pick
-15th overall (Would be 13th if NYK not in playoffs)
-NYK ranked 8th in East
-Belong to HOU

HOU Pick
-16th or 17th Overall
-HOU ranked 8th in West
-Belong to NJN

Dallas Pick
-21st overall
-DAL ranked 5th in West
-Belong to HOU

Summary: If season ended today, HOU would have 2 picks, 15th overall and 21st overall.
Lookin good.

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it kills me that we gave up our 1st round pick this year for the squid
 
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The sliding of those bubble teams in the West shrinks the gap between Knicks making the playoffs and not. Root for the Bucks, the Wolves and the Blazers to overtake NY.

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Thanks for the update Carl.

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We need to lose tonight... Lol

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We need to lose tonight... Lol
I'm on the fence about this.

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I'm on the fence about this.
I'm not. We are hurting and without depth. That spells disaster for the playoffs. I'd take 3 draft picks rather than 1 in this draft (If we knock the Mavs out of the top 10).

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wadero is offline Old 03-27-2012, 03:56 PM   #52
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Correc me if I am wrong, If we dont make the Playoffs we dont give up the pick to NJ right?? Not calling for us to Tank just want to understand the Pick status

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Yung-T is offline Old 03-27-2012, 03:58 PM   #53
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Correc me if I am wrong, If we dont make the Playoffs we dont give up the pick to NJ right?? Not calling for us to Tank just want to understand the Pick status
Yup, that's basically it. That also is a bit tied to the Dallas pick as we are direct competitors. Making playoffs could result in us losing both picks.

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Correc me if I am wrong, If we dont make the Playoffs we dont give up the pick to NJ right?? Not calling for us to Tank just want to understand the Pick status
We get NYK no matter what
We get Dallas if they finish in the top 10 (pick is #21 or higher)
We keep our pick if we miss the playoffs

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Correc me if I am wrong, If we dont make the Playoffs we dont give up the pick to NJ right?? Not calling for us to Tank just want to understand the Pick status
Yeh, but then we have to give it up next year.


A very POSITIVE scenario would be for us to make the playoffs this season and for the Mavs to fall OUTSIDE the top 20.

I hear you: "Huh? Are you insane?"

When it comes to trades, first round picks are gold - especially ones like the Mavs pick. It is unprotected in the final season - what's the guarantee that the Mavs will be good that season? Worst case, you get a top 20 pick anyway.

We then also have the rights to our own pick back - effectively making us able to offer 2 first round picks in a trade.

The way we've been asked to build, this is the way that we get a big star: through a trade - a team with a superstar looking to 'blow it up' might swing for a couple of firsts [or more if we throw in a second of our own]

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We get NYK no matter what
It is top 3 proected.

If they are in the lotto and Stern pulls one of his classic riggings (the reason why we have this stupid lottery), THEN we lose it.

But more than likely, it should be ours.
 
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It is top 3 proected.

If they are in the lotto and Stern pulls one of his classic riggings (the reason why we have this stupid lottery), THEN we lose it.

But more than likely, it should be ours.
It's actually top-5 protected.

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My bad, you are right.

Regardless, we need to hope Stern does not pull an 85
 
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My nightmare has been that the Knicks pick is somewhere from 6 to 10 in this great draft and Stern pulls something to get them a top-3 pick.

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Carl had a thread earlier about this but it's not looking good for the Rockets.

Out of the remaining 15 games, 10 are against .500 or better teams. For the month of March, we are .222 vs teams over .500. 8 games are on the road (we're .300 on the road) and 5 are back-to-back.

Can we dog paddle our way to keep above .524 - which is last year's finishing record? Personally with all these injuries, I see us finishing just under that and picking at 14 - again.
 

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