The crazies have always been there, but they became weaponized and militant really only during the 1980's when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The U.S. and others were pumping crazy money into the region. It just so happened that other jihadists went there and got that training as well indirectly from the U.S efforts. One of those jihadist happen to be Osama Bin Laden.. Who is to blame for ISIS? No one. It's a product of many things. Certainly you could arguest that one of many groups that would have made her...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>1300 Muslims link hands in Ring of Peace around Jewish synagogue in Oslo. This deserves RT, not ISIS atrocities. <a href="http://t.co/ALqB6m0cFd">pic.twitter.com/ALqB6m0cFd</a></p>— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/569508462519922689">February 22, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Recently in the USA I have noted more Muslims speaking out against the nonsense in Europe and the Middle East. Hopefully it grows.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash">#ISIS</a> has released a propaganda video showing Kurdish Peshmerga fighters paraded in cages: <a href="http://t.co/PoJ7HphrzJ">http://t.co/PoJ7HphrzJ</a> <a href="http://t.co/EKAK9ehuTU">pic.twitter.com/EKAK9ehuTU</a></p>— The Situation Room (@CNNSitRoom) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNSitRoom/status/569575352055541760">February 22, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Q After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory. Well I did not see this coming? This is in the Quran?
His follow-up piece is interesting as well: http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...really-wants-reader-response-atlantic/385710/
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Identity of ISIS executioner ‘Jihadi John’ is revealed. <a href="https://twitter.com/KeirSimmons">@KeirSimmons</a> starts us off tonight <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBCNightlyNews?src=hash">#NBCNightlyNews</a> <a href="http://t.co/yxnkoDxmRK">pic.twitter.com/yxnkoDxmRK</a></p>— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/571090215760224257">February 26, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 The guy graduated from university with a computing degree in 2009. So much for Obama's and his dense female spokesperson's myth that Islamist extremism is just because "they have no jobs".
Obama needs to clearly define a strategy on ISIS. He is projecting weakness and these Islamic terrorists are taking full advantage of the opening he's given them.
Conservative thoughts on this analysis of how Fox News helps ISIS? And please provide an intelligent answer so that we may engage in a decent discussion, I'm not interested in witless banter.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLZ. Our strategy should be let them kill each while we focus on rebuilding our infrastructure and focus on domestic defense. I'm not sure what weakness is being projected through airstrikes which are pretty demoralizing and killing seasoned ISIS fighters.
That'd be a miracle. The Western world hasn't had a defined strategy for the Middle East in 100 years, if then.
"Why are we doing this?" "Because our religious feelings have been hurt" Part of the core problem with political Islam and a large percentage of Muslims is the absolutism with which they put their own sensitivities above everyone else's. Their belief in an imaginary "prophet" and his infallibility leads to them thinking that everything they interpret as an "insult to that prophet" justifies anything - murdering, destroying art, raping, enslaving. Whether they hurt others' feelings and sensitivities with these "activities" (duh) is irrelevant to them. Their attitude is incredible self-centered. The Golden Rule has been lost on them.
Posting this here instead of starting a new thread. No surprise that the Islamic state is having trouble actually maintaining itself as a state. Many of the foreign fighters aren't that interested in fighting and aren't that good while the brunt of the combat is seen by locals who resent the foreigners. It is far too soon to know for sure but it wouldn't surprise me if the Islamic state collapses in infighting at some point. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...03a2e0-c276-11e4-a188-8e4971d37a8d_story.html Islamic State appears to be fraying from within BEIRUT — The Islamic State *appears to be starting to fray from within, as dissent, defections and setbacks on the battlefield sap the group’s strength and erode its aura of invincibility among those living under its despotic rule. Reports of rising tensions between foreign and local fighters, aggressive and increasingly unsuccessful attempts to recruit local citizens for the front lines, and a growing incidence of guerrilla attacks against Islamic State targets suggest the militants are struggling to sustain their carefully cultivated image as a fearsome fighting force drawing Muslims together under the umbrella of a utopian Islamic state. he anecdotal reports, drawn from activists and residents of areas under Islamic State control, don’t offer any indication that the group faces an immediate challenge to its stranglehold over the mostly Sunni provinces of eastern Syria and western Iraq that form the backbone of its self-proclaimed caliphate. Battlefield reversals have come mostly on the fringes of its territory, while organized opposition remains unlikely as long as viable alternatives are lacking and the fear of vicious retribution remains high, Syrians, Iraqis and analysts say. The bigger threat to the Islamic State’s capacity to endure, however, may come from within, as its grandiose promises collide with realities on the ground, said Lina Khatib, director of the Carnegie Middle East Center in Beirut. “The key challenge facing ISIS right now is more internal than external,” she said, using another term for the group. “We’re seeing basically a failure of the central tenet of ISIS ideology, which is to unify people of different origins under the caliphate. This is not working on the ground. It is making them less effective in governing and less effective in military operations.” Most striking are the growing signs of friction between the foreigners lured by its state-building experiment and local recruits, who have grown resentful of the preferential treatment meted out to the expatriates, including higher salaries and better living conditions. Foreign fighters get to live in the cities, where coalition airstrikes are relatively rare because of the risk of civilian casualties, while Syrian fighters are required to serve in rural outposts more vulnerable to attacks, said an activist who opposes the Islamic State and lives in the town of Abu Kamal on Syria’s border with Iraq. The activist spoke on the condition of anonymity. Shootouts have erupted on several occasions on the streets of the town, including one last week between foreign fighters and Syrians who refused an order by a Kuwaiti commander to deploy to the front lines in Iraq, the activist said. The Syrian faction, under the command of Saddam Jamal, a former Free Syrian Army leader, remains in the town, keeping a tense and wary distance from the faction led by the Kuwaiti, he said. In an incident in the Iraqi city of Ramadi in January, local allies battled a group made up mostly of Chechens after the foreigners decided to head back to Syria, according to Hassan al-Dulaimi, a retired police general who works with tribal fighters aligned against the Islamic State. “The Iraqis feared they were being abandoned,” he said. There have been signs, too, that some foreign jihadists are growing disillusioned, with activists in the Syrian provinces of Deir al-Zour and Raqqa describing several instances in which foreigners have sought local help to escape across the border to Turkey. The bodies of between 30 and 40 men, many of whom appeared to be Asian, were found last month in the Raqqa town of Tabqa. They are thought to be the remains of a group of jihadist fighters who tried to flee but were caught, according to the activist group Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently, which monitors Islamic State activities. New restrictions on travel in and out of areas controlled by the Islamic State have been imposed in recent weeks, including a prohibition on truck drivers transporting men without permission, the activist group says. Public executions, a core component of Islamic State discipline, have in recent weeks been extended to about 120 of the group’s own members, according to the *Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Some were accused of spying and one of smoking, but suspicions are widespread that most were simply fighters caught trying to flee. Meanwhile, territorial losses in northern Syria and elsewhere in Iraq are contributing to the sense that the group that stunned the world with its triumphant sweep through Iraq and Syria last summer is now not only on the defensive but also struggling to find a coherent strategy to confront the multiple forces ranged against it. The Islamic State is battling major offensives waged on at least three fronts — by Kurds in northern Syria, Kurds in northern Iraq and the combined force of Iraqi army and Shiite militia fighters advancing on the central Iraqi city of Tikrit. Islamic State fighters have also been expanding into eastern areas of the Syrian provinces of Homs and Damascus, but the incremental advances there aren’t as spectacular as its conquests last year. Most of the setbacks have come in non-Sunni areas, such as the Kurdish enclave around Kobane or the mixed province of Diyala in eastern Iraq, where the Islamic State’s territorial ambitions may have been doomed by the absence of allies on the ground. A far bigger test of the Islamic State’s military capabilities is the battle underway for control of Tikrit, the Sunni home town of Saddam Hussein. As the ethnic and sectarian sentiments driving the fight for territory harden across Syria and Iraq, a victory for the overwhelmingly Shiite forces would also test the ability of non-Sunni groups to retain hold over conquered Sunni territories, analysts say. The Islamic State’s losses in terms of land and blood have been fairly substantial, including the loss of hundreds of villages around the Kurdish town of Kobane in Syria, near the northern Iraqi town of Sinjar and in the eastern Iraqi province of Diyala. The battles appear to have taken a high toll on the group’s strength, estimated at about 20,000 foreigners alongside an unknown number of Iraqis and Syrians. The Pentagon claimed last week that coalition airstrikes have killed 8,500 fighters, though that figure can’t be confirmed. Syrians say the bloodshed is deterring the recruitment of local citizens who were clamoring a few months ago for the opportunity to earn salaries by joining the only new source of employment available. Increasingly, the Islamic State is recruiting fighters among children and teens who remain more vulnerable than older adults to the group’s propaganda, said a businessman living in Raqqa who last week paid condolences to family friends whose 15-year-old son had been killed on the front line. The parents didn’t know he had gone to fight and learned of his death from a neighbor just days after he had disappeared from home, recalled the businessman, who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity because he fears for his safety. Intensified efforts to persuade Syrians to go to the front lines in Iraq include offers of up to $800 a month in salary, according to Ahmed Mhidi, who arrived in Turkey two weeks ago from the Syrian city of Deir al-Zour and is setting up an opposition group called DZGraph. The offer has won few takers, he said. The Islamic State “was never popular, but people supported them because they were scared or they needed money,” he said. “Now people want nothing to do with them, and if the Islamic State puts pressure on them, they just flee.” The province of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq, appears to be where opposition to the Islamic State is hardening the most. Small-scale attacks involving ambushes of Islamic State patrols or checkpoints are on the rise — including one that killed 12 members of a feared police group Sunday. Foreigners continue to volunteer, streaming across the Turkish border into the Islamic State’s self-styled capital of Raqqa, according to residents there. The city’s population has been swelled by thousands of Europeans, Asians, Arabs and Africans. Upon arrival they are given cars and apartments, and they mill about among the city’s cafes and markets, lending a cosmopolitan air to streets where foreigners once were rare, according to Abu Ibrahim al-Raqqawi, the pseudonym of one of the founders of the Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently group, who now lives in Turkey. Many of the foreigners show little inclination to travel to the front lines, he said. “They just want to live in the Islamic State,” he said. “They didn’t come to fight.” How useful they would be to the Islamic State’s military efforts is also in question, said the Carnegie Middle East Center’s Khatib. “Ultimately, they are only attracting people on the margins of society, without much education or useful skills,” she said. “It’s not exactly bolstering their military capability.”
Picture of ISIS roasting shia militants Spoiler <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash">#ISIS</a> "roasts" 4 shia militia members in retaliation for shia militias burning of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash">#ISIS</a> members. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Iraq?src=hash">#Iraq</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anbar?src=hash">#Anbar</a> <a href="http://t.co/qplLkwvxRN">pic.twitter.com/qplLkwvxRN</a></p>— Garmıyanı כורדי (@Sarbarzi) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sarbarzi/status/638366232698322944">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
