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What ISIS Really Wants

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 16, 2015.

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  1. R0ckets03

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    Wish I hadn't clicked on that spoiler...jesus
     
  2. Amiga

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    So, this is their retaliation for shia militias burning their members.

    Pure animals, on both sides.
     
  3. Mathloom

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    Frankly I'm way over the methods of murder. It's difficult to watch and really appeals to emotion, which is what both sides want, and not conducive to solving a problem.

    By now everyone should be counting deaths rather obsessing over the method of execution/murder. I'm as concerned for the guy who gets shot in battle as those who are murdered in a more cruel fashion.

    The answer is still the same, you guys need to GTFO. The ****ty thing is you could have left us a middle east with just al qaeda, but now you're going to have to leave us with al qaeda and isis. Thanks for that!
     
  4. GlenDice

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    The united states military needs to intervene before they spread further. At first I thought the gulf allies could take care of this by themselves but they seem disinterested. Now I see that we need to bring the fire power and eliminate them before they have any legitimate power in the region.
     
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    Its not the US's responsibility. It's a middle eastern problem, let the middle east deal with it.
     
  6. GlenDice

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    This is like saying let Europe deal with the nazis. Its not just middle east vs isis, its isis vs the world more specifically islamic extremism vs the world. They already declared war on us and killed US citizens.
     
  7. larsv8

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    No it isn't. Its nothing like that. Germany was a superpower steamrolling through countries in Europe with a massive arsenal fueled by the pillage and genocide of the Jews. Even then, we did not enter until the Japanese directly attacked us on our own soil.

    Isis is the JV squad, one of dozens across the world, who somehow managed to steal the media spotlight.

    Its a middle eastern problem, they need to deal with it.
     
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    The fight is spreading across borders and creating a nasty refugee problem in Europe.

    Regardless, as long as the ME has oil, it's going to be America's problem. Even with domestic production, what the ME does affects overall prices.

    Also, the US doesn't abandon long standing allies like Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Israel. And Israel...talk about powderkeg with the US sitting on it.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Typical Mathloom craziness - blame the USA for Islamist murderers, rather than blaming the horrible ideology of political Islam itself.

    As if Al Qaeda and ISIS would stop if the USA didn't exist at all - unfreakingbelievable that this crazy Islam fanatic Mathloom has the nerve to blame the USA "not having gotten out" for Islamists murdering everyone left and right in the name of their "prophet", blowing up archeological sites, enslaving, raping and murdering innocent people.

    Yep, all the USA's fault for "not having gotten the f*** out" in Mathloom's lunatic bizarro world. Ah yeah, he is probably blaming Israel, too.
     
  10. larsv8

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    If its causing a nasty refugee problem in Europe, then its their problem, not ours.

    Any existing army in the middle east could wipe out ISIS easily. They need to man up and do it.

    There is a surplus of oil right now, its not going to affect the price.
     
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    Before they have any legitimate power in the region???? What exactly do you define as 'legitimate power'? Are you aware of all the territory they govern?
     
  12. BigDog63

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    What makes you believe that? Are you aware that they ARE an army? Run by ex-military. Equipped, thanks to us, with state of the art equipment. Syria has an army, they can't do it. Iraq had an army, they couldn't do it.

    ANYTHING in the Middle East affects oil prices. But it probably wouldn't have much effect, and long term it would probably help stabilize prices. Depending, of course, on who did it and what the outcome was.
     
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    You mean like 100,000 troops for a decade, at the cost of a trillion dollars, with thousands of American casualties we can take good care of with the VA system?
     
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    How obvious is it that you're 100% unaware that the gulf allies are at all out war with another country?
     
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    lol what? The US doesn't abandon states which are long standing allies?
     
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    At least the important ones... Saudis and Israelis are enough reason not to clear out.
     
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    Mathloom exemplifies a specific aspect that is so wrong with the Muslim world: The inability to take responsibility for your own failures.

    - People murder other people in the name of Islam: "It's the USA's fault. They have bases in our countries." (Illogical: What does the USA having a base in Saudi Arabia having to do with Muslims slaughtering Yazidis in Syria?)

    - Islamist terrorists fly planes into buildings in New York: "Must have been the Mossad behind this. All the Jews there got the day off."

    - Hamas terrorists catch a dolphin: "Must be an Israel spy dolphin."

    How about asking what motivates Islamist intolerance? How about looking at your own ideological failures?
     
  18. glynch

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    Oh you horrible Muslim guy.

    Every decent person knows that even, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen etc. hundreds of thousands burned, mutilated and killed don't count if done with "smart" bombs and "precision" drones authorized by the American government for the best of reasons.
     
  19. glynch

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    Please volunteer asap. Just don't sit behind your keyboard like the chickenhawks who love to send our forces and bombers to create failed states and create these types of messes justifying more interventions.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    With shale fracing we don't really need the middle east's oil. Heck, the US oil industry is better off with the war in the middle east.
     

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