Imagine how good we would be if Morey had not botched the offseason

You should have stopped here.

/facepalm

Morey wanted to keep Parsons here. He took a gamble that he could lure Bosh (assuming Lebron leaves. If Lebron stayed, he needed a plan B anyways.) and match any offer on Parsons and operate over the cap. If he trades Parsons, he gets a tiny contract back. Sure, he could have lumped Asik and/or Lin's contract to get a bigger contract back, but the poison pill(s) probably scared off a few suitors.

I argued that above, and having a Bev/Harden/Parsons/Bosh/Howard lineup is still insane. Look at Bosh's production so far this year. He's TJones on steroids every night. We were never going to be in the hunt for Melo.

Melo would have been an incredible fit here. He would be more than capable of playing the stretch 4 position. He spreads the floor, posts up, can move off the ball, and is an adequate defender.

Going with your option means losing Parsons the following year. He becomes unrestricted. There were some rumblings about Lowry wanting to come back to Houston, but he's loved in Toronto and signed very early on in the process. If he really wanted to come here, he would have waited for the Lebron decision.

You also make the assumption that Ariza comes here to back up and/or split minutes with Parsons. Why would he do that?

I would need Bimathug or a capologist confirmation, but I don't know if we could sign Lowry and Ariza outright without making further trades (TJones or DMo) to clear more space.

Also, you still need to wait for Morey to use the 8.3M trade exception from the Lin trade before you make your final judgment on his moves.

You are really one of the worst posters on this forum. I know you're trolling and it's fun to you, but can't you just sit back and enjoy a team that's winning and has good chemistry?

 

My only issue is not getting Lowry as he clearly was for the taking. But honestly, I think Morey has done a great job and that's good enough for me.

 

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I wonder if Morey is reconsidering the absolute need for a third star right now? I know it's early but the schedule has not been THAT friendly and factoring in all the new players and the injuries, he has to be looking at a very dominant 7-1 record with a pleasant sense of disbelief.

Does he go after a third star around the All Star break if this team is on a 60 win pace? I hope he doesn't. One of my small complaints with Morey (sorry for sounding like Cuban here) is he seems to hold little value for chemistry. He is from the "there is no such things as too much talent" school and I disagree. You need vets and role players and locker room guys who aren't necessarily big minute players. Maybe he is learning a bit about basketball and chemistry by watching this team. I know I am getting chills I haven't felt in nearly 20 years thinking of the realistic potential this team has.

We don't really have any X-factors or require any unlikely leaps in development from the role players to be a very, very good team in May and June. All we need is Dwight and Harden to continue playing the way they are, reasonable health for the entire team and guys like Canaan and Big Papa to continue to develop as key pieces off the bench. If all of those things happen who scares me in the playoffs? Nobody. I'm not saying we are going to roll over the Spurs and Clippers but when you have Orlando Dwight and Harden playing like a Steve Nash/James Harden hybrid you have to like our chances against anyone.

 

I agree but I don't think Morey had a chance - Lowry barely thought twice before signing with Toronto. He hadn't even really established his market value. But as good as Lowry is, it's hard to know how well he could coexist with a high usage player like Harden, when a lot of Lowry's playmaking requires the ball to be in his hands. Canaan has been surprisingly good (shooting 42% from 3) and that money could potentially be put to better use at the deadline. Lowry is certainly a loss from a talent standpoint, but it looks easier to swallow as we get a chance to see this young team grow.

 

I hate it when you guys beat up someone who took some time to make an interesting argument even if it is flawed a bit.... it's something controversial to talk about if you approach it that way.

 

Chemistry has pretty much always been good under Morey. He very quickly got us out of the Steve-Cuttino-Moochie dumpster fire.

I can't think of a Morey team that has had bed chemistry except when Lin, TWill, or Howard-Asik two-headed monster played.

I now believe good players have good chemistry.

As far as not getting that 3rd star, it's risky. Who's to say the Cavs, Spurs, or an outside team like the Pelicans doesn't become really dominant?

Morey probably thinks it's more risky to stand pat.

 

Parsons didn't want to be here. what part of that do you people not understand? He wanted to be the number one option like they're trying to make him beleive he is in dallas. and your idea is to play him off the bench?

terrible idea.

we're fine the way we are. we dodged a great bullet not keeping him. we dont want another asik. The only thing i wish differently is that we could have kept asik (granted he wanted to stay) and signed bosh. we would be a lot more attractive to other free agents.

but whats done is done and we're doing well. so enjoy the moment. we just need more size at the moment.

 

It will be interesting to see next Summer which would have been better-

Lowry (12 mil per x 4 years guaranteed)
+Parsons (15 mil per X 3 years)

> or <

Ariza (8 mil per X 4 years)
+ Papanikolaou (4.8 mil per x 1 year guaranteed + next year option)
+whatever they get between now & July 2015

Obviously Lowry and Parsons would probably have taken the Rockets further this year, but it would have been a very short term focus. The Rockets would have had 65+ million next year in just 4 players.

However the "whatever we get between now and July" is the ultimate deciding factor. If Morey doesn't really do anything with that flexibility than Lowry/Parsons would have been the way to go IMO. Morey has time to make good on that blunder, and that blunder wouldn't look so bad in a couple years when the Rockets are paying big money to players that might decline and would be 4th through 6th options.

 

i agree with everything morey did except letting parsons go into RFA. If he actually did do that because of a side deal he made with the Dwight signing then you cant blame him for that either. We traded lin and asik thinking bosh was gonna sign and it didn’t pan out. We cant blame morey for that. There is no way in hell signing parsons for 15 mil was a smart idea. Having flexibility is very important especially if the team is not a serious contender and I don’t think rockets are quite there yet

 

Of course you feel this way. Ever stop to think that many people have different definitions of "interesting"?

 

The ironic thing about this idiotic thread is that if it were not for Daryl Morey we most assuredly would not have either of Dwight or Harden.

 

Obviously this guy put some thought into this. Some people are open-minded enough to find other people's ideas "interesting"; others just think they know it all. I've seen it time and time again.... here. One doesn't have to jump on someone with both feet if you feel disagreement. There is nothing threatening about it.

 

literally the only bad move i think Morey has made in the past year is not trading Chandler for Rondo last year when he had the chance.

 

It's pretty clear Lowry wanted to come here. OP is right about that part.

 

Remember, the Rockets were set to start the 2012 season with the following marquee players:

Kevin Martin
Jeremy Lin
Omer Asik
(Chandler Parsons)

While Asik and Parsons ended up being much better than expected, that squad was gearing up to be tank specialists. Instead, the assets Morey had stockpiled since the end of the Age of Yao and T-Mac set him up to acquire

James Harden
Dwight Howard

 

lol can you imagine how good the rockets would be if they had matched parsons, not traded asik to be able to sign ariza, and kept lin as a backup? sounds like we'd be just as good as last year when we didn't start 7-1.

or does op mean morey botched the offseason because we weren't allowed to offer as much money as miami? stuck out i'd say, not botched.

 

He asked for 12m x 4, Morey said no, he wanted to be here more than Morey wanted him to be here, that's why he's been so salty.

 

Miami botched our offseason more than anything

 

And Duncan, Arica, and dirk wanted to be with their current teams more than chandler

If chandler asked for 10x4 would morey have pulled the trigger?