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Democratic Leaders don’t Care About Illegal immigrants

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by crash5179, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    There was literally nothing intelligent or accurate in any of this, so I'm not going to waste my time going line by line through your whiny BS. I do like that you aren't even attempting to justify the dumb BS that you said earlier. It's a start I suppose.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Anyone arrested for a misdemeanor while with their child would have their child taken from them while they were detained. That's just a fact you can't make go away.

    That's not actually true, just because there was an Obama policy to rarely abide by the law doesn't mean that it didn't happen. When they actually prosecuted people for their crimes it was exactly the same. Literally the only thing that has changed is that Trump put in place a policy where those who broke the law were always prosecuted rather than doing so a small percentage of the time.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    What I said was factual, given that all you gave was your opinion and insults as a "rebuttal," what I said didn't need any further justification.

    Try again, rookie.
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    It was Trump's policy change that caused these people to be detained rather than treated as asylum seekers, as they had been in the past. That's the fact and it hasn't gone away.

    Yes, Trump put a "zero-tolerance" policy in place that removed all discretion from the people who, until Trump made the change, were able to handle these situations without separating thousands of children from their parents.

    And you're defending that idiotic policy.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    It was their criminal act of illegally entering the country that caused them to be prosecuted for their criminal act of illegally entering the country. I know people like you aren't big on personal responsibility, but damn kid.

    No, there was never any "discretion", before there was a policy that dictated that the law not be enforced except for in very specific instances and that led to the "catch and release" nonsense. The only change by Trump was that he put out a policy of enforcing the law. There's otherwise no difference whatsoever. Children were separated from their families during Obama if they happened to be in the group of people picked to have the law enforced and it was never a big deal to you.....now that the DNC finds themselves in trouble in the upcoming midterms they put out some propaganda and you lap it up and show up here to regurgitate it. That nonsense couldn't be any more transparent.

    What this comes down to is you whining about the law being enforced.
     
  6. GladiatoRowdy

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    I suspect that I'm bigger on personal responsibility than you ever will me.

    Tipjar bet that I'm older than you, boy?

    Yes, the "nonsense" that led to more deportations than any other time in history. Your denial of facts is hilarious.

    Previous administrations didn't end up having to request 20,000 beds from the military to house children separated form their parents. Your claim of "no difference whatsoever" falls flat in the face of the facts.

    Criticizing doesn't equal "whining" (except in the RWNJ echo chamber) and the criticism is about the change in policy. The law was being enforced for years, Trump is the one whose enforcement choices resulted in thousands of kids separated from their families.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    That's hilarious given that you were blaming people breaking the law on the existence of laws instead of the people who chose to knowingly break the law.

    That statistic was due in large part to a change in how "deportations" are defined rather than to an increase in the number of persons deported. In order to make the numbers look better, those who were caught at the border and quickly transported back across were deemed "deportations" by the Obama regime when they were considered "voluntary returns" by all previous administrations. Those types of "deportations" made up around 2/3 of all "deportations" in some years during the Obama administration.

    If you consider those "deportations" then there were millions more "deportations" by previous administrations given that during the 90's there was frequently a million or more of those per year that at the time didn't count as "deportations".

    In short, Obama cooked the books to make it look like he was tougher on immigration than he really was and you bought the lie hook line and sinker because you don't know any better.

    Yeah, when you cause a problem to get a whole lot worse like Obama did, that's what happens when you start to enforce the law again.

    LOL btw, the change was only deciding to enforce the law again after years of Obama preventing that from happening.
     
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    Central America has been a source of refugees for at least 30 years. This will continue probably until we all reach old age and die.
     
  9. Senator

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    Whatever, the situation has been diffused. We need to move forward. Your suggestion on what Latin countries can do to curb the constant exodus of illegal immigration?
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    I don't think it is our place to dictate what Latin American countries should do, we should concentrate on what we can do.
     
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    As usual, you claim that I said something I didn't say. Why are you such a liar?

    Even looking at it the way other administrations did, there were more deportations than at any previous time in history.

    Even looking at it the way other administrations did, there were more deportations than at any previous time in history.

    I'm not the one who bought a lie on this topic, you're the one who has been eating the turds off of Bullsh!t Mountain.

    Except that Obama didn't, liar.

    You mean enforcing the law differently than any other administration in history.
     
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    i notice that you've intentionally omitted

    Australia, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Phillipines, Taiwan, Singapore, SE Asia, Canada, Mexico, the Carribean, So America, etc.​
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    I guess I can't even expect you to know what you are saying....SMH

    That's factually inaccurate. I just pointed out to you how your talking points were based on numbers created by cooking the books and you double down on those talking points? LOL, really?

    No, not differently, just more frequently enforcing the law than the previous administration. Literally the only difference.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    Smack your head a little harder, it might jar loose whatever bullsh!t you've got stuck up there. Maybe try smacking it with a brick.

    Not talking points, numbers. Try again, rookie.

    No, differently than any administration in history. When you treat asylum claims as criminal offenses, you're enforcing the law differently than any administration ever has before. That's what is happening here.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    As I pointed out to you, the numbers you cited are intentionally misleading. Here's a more accurate representation.

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    If a person commits a criminal act and then when caught claims to be an asylum seeker, they still committed a crime. True asylum seekers are not treated as criminals because they didn't commit a criminal act. In short, you are whining about people getting caught committing a criminal act being treated as people who got caught committing a criminal act.....
     
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    Peter Fonda....... yeah leave the kids out of it.... Barron Trump has nothing to do with it. Not sure how anyone can support his comments.

    As for the restaurant? Well, I can't say I feel that bad for her. There was no violence. As far as I know, no one was told to leave and it ended without incident. Also I think that protest group is a socialist group......

    Both the major parties in the US have serious extremists that are dangerous....... do you want Nazi's or Stalin Communists...... your choice.
     
  17. Nook

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    LMFAO No, there are definitely some similarities between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler and other authoritarian regimes.

    Don't worry, it isn't limited to the Republicans, there extreme left of the Democrat party has some real early Soviet tendencies.

    When you have Trump using words like "infest" and "pour" to describe hispanics..... that is from the same playbook used by Hitler to describe Jews and gypsies....... they were also called a "plague" and not really citizens. Both have provoked responses from the fringe and then taken a step back and blamed their enemies. We don't have concentration camps, but we do have cages where families are split apart. Not to mention both Hitler and Trump are severe germaphobes.

    On the other end, we have Stalin like thought police from the ultra left that refuse to discuss topics and label anyone that doesn't march to their exact beat as racist and trash worthy of scorn. That is very Soviet like.
     
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    It didn't escape them some are just trolling as they usually do other are drinking that trump koolaid.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, I think you might have been listening to The Young Turks too much...they were pushing that exact narrative recently. Don't you realize that you are supposed to just laugh at TYT, not parrot their narratives?
     
  20. Senator

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    Why, because they dont have oil reserves? You're either the world leader or not , everyone reacts according to what the US does. If your neighbors are methheads and their kids keep vandalizing your place , you confront them eventually. Not let chaos reign because you're afraid of the media attacking you.
     

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