Democratic Leaders don’t Care About Illegal immigrants

Misdemeanors do not come with child separation penalties. you guys spend all day lying to people who know you're lying how insane is that.

 

Screw immigration, I’m already gearing up for the 2018 Christmas bonus season as a result of the tax cut.

 

So you agree we should criminally prosecute every casual weed smoker in the country?

It's very relevant because I'm addressing your cognitive dissonance .

I want to see if you apply your principles to all instances or if you just pick and choose to reaffirm your preconcieved notions.

 

Do you know how to read?

That's not what she said at all...man you guys are so dishonest.

 

She is an open borders advocate.

 

No she's not. There aren't any prominent Democrats (that I'm aware of) who actually promote open border policies, that's just the position that Trump and his minions seem to love running around accusing Democrats of having in an effort to paint the other side as being extremists. It's completely dishonest and pretty much proves the point that @JayGoogle was making.

 

LOL @ responses from some posters - the spin is so out of control. Dems or libs are not tough enough on immigration and now it is that we the Dems or Libs are even worse about this than Trump. As mentioned NUMEROUS times, it was Trump that took it to another level when he made it ZERO tolerance. Somehow this is escaping some of our posters who have made it known that they follow the ideology of the right.

 

I am starting to see the light after reading first hand accounts. This is brutal...


Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me. Strapped me down all the way, from your feet all the way to your chest, you couldn’t really move. ... They have total control over you. They also put a bag over your head. It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.

 

Correct. In fact, as Attorney General of California she was quite active in fighting transnational crime.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article2593534.html

You see, it is quite possible that you can be for a secure border and against separating children from their parents.

 

If tough means caging children away from parents because of a misdemeanor then you're right? are you happy? its such bullshit you guys are so dishonest. if you have to lie then you've already lost.

 

The ONLY difference was a policy that enforced the current laws on the books more often. The knuckle draggers on the left spun that as the US becoming Nazi Germany.

 

THEY IS NO LAW THAT SAYS YOU HAVE SEPARATE THE KIDS. For gods sake, you guys are borderline psychotic with the lies.

 

You do realize that the policy change that caused the crisis was treating every single asylum seeker as a criminal illegal entry case, right?

You have the cudgel possession wrong. Trump tried to use immigration as a cudgel to try and get Democrats to vote for things like the wall and reducing legal immigration, it backfired on him.

Chuck Schumer made that statement because Trump was trying to get him and other Democrats to vote for things in an immigration bill that they are opposed to. If a bill were put forth to correct this and only this problem, Democrats would vote for it. However, the proposals put forth would also reduce legal immigration and provide wall funding, which are the policies Democrats are opposed to, not separating (it is cute that you used the same misspelling as your Dear Leader) immigrant children from their parents at the border.

 

That's factually inaccurate, but let's face it, when have you ever known what you were talking about?

The only policy change was to enforce the laws on the books and charge people for illegal entry more often when they commit that crime. It has literally nothing to do with legitimate asylum seekers.

At least attempt to do some homework before coming here and embarrassing yourself.

 

Nice straw man, nobody made that argument, try again.

 

No, it is 100% true.

And an insult, check.

You do realize that's exactly the point I just made, the one you called "factually inaccurate," right? Under Bush and Obama, border patrol agents used their discretion to criminally charge only those who it was necessary to charge. Under Trump's "zero-tolerance" policy, there is no more discretion allowed.

Yes, it does, when 100% of asylum seekers are charged with illegal entry rather than going through the asylum process.

You're the one who should be embarrassed. The sad part is, you don't even understand this one, simple truth.

Try again, rookie.

 

Build the wall, Problem solved. Funny how these people are desperate to leave non shithole countries.

 

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Not an insult, it's a factually accurate observation. You seemingly never know what you are talking about.

SMH, no, that's not the point you made, you were trying to say that Trump changed a policy and started charging asylum seekers with crimes when that's simply not the case. The ONLY people charged are those who commit the crime of illegally entering the country. The change in policy was from the Obama policy to essentially let everyone go that wasn't a violent criminal to the policy of charging those who broke the law. There was no "discretion" allowed under the Obama policy, it was strict adherence to his policy of letting damn near everyone go.

And you repeat the ignorant lie yet again, no legitimate asylum seekers were not being charged with illegal entry because legitimate asylum seekers don't illegally enter the country. Seriously, I want to know how it is possible that you are this ridiculously ignorant and still trying to argue this?

 

What? You'd still have people at the border that are seeking asylum. What a waste of money that would be.