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Trump Sends Unmarked Fed Goons to Kidnap Protesters

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  1. SamFisher

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    I thought open carry was supposed to make everybody safer...?????

    ???

    ???
     
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    This thread has been debunked. Why are ppl still posting?
     
  3. Amiga

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    Had to read up on it :D
    https://www.laserpointersafety.com/protests/index.html
     
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    I don't and that a member of that group accidentally shot three of their own shows this is a bad idea. I was strongly against those people showing up armed at the anti-lockdown protest and am strongly against this group and other groups showing up with firearms at BLM protest. This is a dangerous escalation and one that is primed for a spark to set it off.

    At that same Louisville protests there was another militia group against BLM that showed up armed also. I expect Louisville PD and others LE to now start showing up with not just the less than lethal ammunition but also with lethal ammunition incase they have to start returning fire or firing to try to separate armed belligerents. One accidental discharge like what happened in Louisville could lead to a massive tragedy.
     
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    If this is true then good.
     
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    You know he can be charged with manslaughter. How much you want to bet that driver didn't have any reason to drive through that street. He wanted to start ****.

    If you can prove to me that driver had a apartment or some type of trip that was necessary to drive through that particular intersection, then I don't blame him at all.

    But if the driver was just driving around to find protests to antagonize he should be charged with man slaughter.
     
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    “The strong man is the man who will not hit back, who can stand up for his rights and yet not hit back,” King told thousands of Montgomery Improvement Association supporters at the city’s Holt Street Baptist Church on Nov. 14, 1956. The black citizens of Montgomery would demonstrate their humanity while victims of a broken society. Nonviolence was the “testing point” of the burgeoning civil rights movement, King explained. “If we as Negroes succumb to the temptation of using violence in our struggle, unborn generations will be the recipients of a long and bitter night of—a long and desolate night of bitterness. And our only legacy to the future will be an endless reign of meaningless chaos.”
     
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    King also understood that riots and violence are a condition of human nature when their voices are suppressed.

    Hence why he said riots are the language of the unheard. He didn't morally justify riots and violence but he understood it's ingrained within the human condition when certain context is delt to a group of humans.

    Basically what he's saying is you'll never solve riots by lecturing black folks. You only solve them by doing things such as closing the wealth gap between Black and white families and closing the education funding gap. That's the only realistic way that these riots are going to stop in the future.
     
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    If we want any real progress on the matter of police brutality peaceful protests are the only way to do it. If you don't then you end up giving the enemy you're fighting the validation to do what's going on right now. Federal police intervention could have been avoided if it had just stayed peaceful. It's been done before...I know damn well we can do it again...the right way.
     
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    That's amazing. You've heard of the term "like hearding cats"? Ya I know "riots bad". You don't have to convince me otherwise. I'm talking about the tangible way to reduce the likely hood of future riots.

    You don't solve the riot problem with lecturing. You can try but there is a 0% chance of it working.

    There is a reason MLK said riots are the language of the unheard. It's inevitable given certain context.

    We can say riots are bad till our face turns purple and it won't stop riots.
     
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    This is America. I or anyone else dont have to justify driving where I am legally allowed to.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    No, if you are driving to instigate violence that leads to someone's death, that is textbook manslaughter. If he was driving around to find protests to drive though and it resulted in someone's death, that is man slaughter. For his sake I hope he has an apartment or some type of necessary errand that forced him to go through that specific intersection. If he went to that intersection to instigate a reaction, man slaughter. Pure man slaughter.

    Please don't do this yourself if you think this is smart. You are just going to put yourself in a dangerous liable position.
     
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    Wow alot of you know nothing about Texas

    People are always packing heat. don't ever roll up on someone's car. doesn't matter if its in Austin or Houston or Dallas or El Paso or San Antonio.
    Texans , especially pedestrians don't roll up on cars.

    it's common sense.
     
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    This is Texas where Texans know OTHER TEXANS HAVE GUNS and DON'T LIKE TO GET ROLLED UP WHILE DRIVING.

    Texas motorist protection act allows you to carry a gun in your car, in Texas, without a concealed handgun license.

     
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    https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...reet/269-9cd396c1-169c-45be-9529-c1e4662f838e
    Austin police say 2 people opened fire during shooting at downtown protest
    Officials believe one shooter was the driver of a car and the other was in the crowd and may have opened fire on the car as it drove away.
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    Austin-Travis County EMS said the incident happened around 9:52 p.m. near East Sixth Street and Congress Avenue. However, Austin police later clarified they responded to 300 Congress, between Third and Fourth streets.












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    One victim was taken to Dell Seton Medical Center, where he later died. Police said the incident was a homicide.

    In an update early Sunday morning, police said initial reports indicated the victim, an adult man, was carrying a rifle when he approached the suspect's vehicle. The suspect then shot out of their car at the victim, police said. That suspect was detained and cooperating with officers.

    RELATED: Local, State politicians react to fatal shooting at protest in Downtown Austin

    On Sunday afternoon, KVUE Senior Reporter Tony Plohetski confirmed with police that two people opened fire during the shooting. Neither shooter was the man who was killed.

    Officials believe one shooter was the driver of a car and the other was in the crowd and may have opened fire on the car as it drove away. The investigation remains fluid, but as of 2 p.m. Sunday, this is the account police have of what happened.

    Investigators are trying to determine what charges the two shooters may face.

    KVUE's colleagues at Good Morning America interviewed Sheila Foster on Sunday morning. She says her son, Garrett Foster, was the man killed in the shooting. She said he and his fiancée have been participating in the protests for quite some time and were downtown Saturday night.

    In a video posted to social media taken by journalist Hiram Gilberto, multiple gunshots could be heard at what appeared to be the same intersection where the incident happened.


    On Sunday morning, Austin City Councilmember Greg Casar and several candidates up for elections in November spoke out about the shooting.

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    YES... It is about time. Huey Newton would be proud... self empowerment. Use the Second Amendment for protection... it doesn’t just apply to white men, but black folks too.
     
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    trump, with the active support and cooperation of Attorney General Barr and Acting Director of Homeland Security Chad Wolf, is deliberately attempting to provoke violence from peaceful protestors in the hope that it will somehow benefit his campaign for “reelection.” That is perfectly obvious. trump is willing and actually eager to use any method he’s allowed to use by a Republican controlled Senate that has refused to use it’s constitutionally allowed oversight of the executive branch to rein in trump’s worst authoritarian excesses.

    This enabling of trump’s madness by the Senate has prevented the Democratic controlled House from doing exactly what the Republican Party will not do. Prevent trump from imitating the authoritarian rulers he so admires. Men like Putin and Erdogan.

    This is nothing less than an assault on our Republic by the Republican Party. I can’t believe that I have lived to see this day.
     
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