[WWII] Remember 'Rape of Nanjing' - 70 Years After

Really? Every race and nation goes on a massive raping massacre evolution?

 

its an "asian thing" i guess you could say...

for example, my friend's father in law came to visit his daughter. while staying there, he accidentally plowed the car into the garage door. the father in law paid for the damages but never appologized. the friend really didnt care about the damages, he just wanted an appology...

thousands of years of confucianism... honor comes before everything else. to admit to their actions would be like taking a BIG CRAP on your own family name...

maybe after all the japanese who were alive during ww2 finally die, the government will finally acknowledge their actions... maybe...

 

in the book, they mentioned 2 japanese officers who decided to have a contest to see how many people they could behead. they did it for the fun of it and it would be a moral booster for the japanese army... the japanese newspaper reported their progress back in japan. WTF!!!

every race/nation may have some records of brutality/war crimes but japan really took it up a notch during ww2.

 

maybe i took it out of context. i recall you saying you hated the japanese in a previous thread. my apologies if i was wrong.

maybe i took this thread out of context too. my bad.

 

im sorry but that was just very stupid. what the **** does pollution have to do with being raped and tortured to death? u sound like one of those japanese apologists.

 

yea, i love it when the japanese rape and pillage.

 

So is this a mix of film and documentary? All the people interviewed in the trailer were actors, so I'm a bit confused about what exactly this movie is. From the review I read, it looks like archival footage with actors doing testimonials or something in place of the real people.

 

It pisses me off when i hear americans say "oh...why are the Chinese so pissed about the prime minister visiting a shrine "? Well lets see how they feel if someone made a shrine to Osama Bin Laden.

 

Was it a shrine to only the soldiers in Nanjing or to all of their soldiers? Also, there already are people who love Osama in the middle east.

 

good analogy.

but japan killed way more innocent people (maybe around 500x more) not to mention the numerous survivors.

in general, think the west is really in the dark about eastern history. sorta like a die hard rockets fans trying to talk about all the nuiances of the jazz, sonics, mavs, spurs....

 

the shrine is dedicated to all their soldiers, including those who were convicted of war crimes. not all their soldiers committed war crimes. but it would be safe to say a good chunk of them did...

 

So then it would be wrong for people to visit our Vietnam memorial because of what happened at My Lai.

 

Why shouldn't Japan be able to have a shrine to their soldiers? I've never seen it but I feel it is pretty safe to assume it isn't there to show how great they were at raping.

We have memorials to the soldiers in Vietnam and I'm sure they did some pretty crappy stuff. No one has a fit about it and it doesn't include a note saying that it is excluding the soldiers that did horrible things.

 

EDIT - Never mind, didn't realize I was in the dreaded D&D forum.

J DIDDY - how did you get "downgraded" to rookie?

 

good point.

but americans didnt rape/pillage all throughout vietnam.

american officers didnt have killing contests.

the american government didnt tell their populace that the vietnamese were "less than human" and it was ok to exterminate them.

the american government didnt advocate the actions that occured in vietnam where as during ww2, the japanese government encourage these actions. thats the big difference.

 

look at post #36

 

Confucianism doesn't mean you cover up misdeeds. If anything Confucianism encourages owning up to ones mistakes.

 

The difference is both in scope as note by other posters but also that the US didn't cover up My Lai and seek to continue to cover it up. The US has had a lot of national handwringing involving attrocities commited by our troops. In Japan there has been a national effort to hide and officially downplay.

 

The US also has a WWII memorial, and we nuked Japan, fire bombed civilian population centers in Asia and Europe, etc. We celebrate Columbus Day and have wiped out nearly the entire indigenous population of North America. People still fly the confederate flag in the south (I know that some don't see this as a symbol of oppression, but a lot of people do). China has a shrine to Mao and he is either #1 or #2 all time in killing his own people. Russia is becoming more and more positive about Stalin, and he is definitely one of the top 5 worst people of all time. It's called nationalism. Most countries do not follow Germany's example in their treatment of shameful chapters of their history.