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Would you give up Yao for T-Mac + #1?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by macho GRANDE, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. CBKU

    CBKU New Member

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    This is my first time posting something, but come on guys....7'5.....Yao will be 7'5 everyday of the week. Hieght is someting you cant teach or coach......and its not something you can just trade away.
     
  2. shawn786

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    Good First Post, I agree
     
  3. crossover

    crossover Contributing Member

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    no, because if there is anything winning teams historically have shown us, is that dominant big men and a team of athletic defensive hustling minded players wins games. Not a team chock full of offensive stars. Trading Francis for Okafor + a perimeter D player would be perfect.
     
  4. macho GRANDE

    macho GRANDE Elvis, was a hero to most but................

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    Is it "STUPID" because Yao is a better player than T-Mac, or at least potentially better? Or perhaps Yao makes more revenue for the team than T-Mac? Or Yao is a better leader than T-Mac? What?


    I like Yao and all but, damn, I'd trade him for Mcgrady.
     
  5. snowmt01

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    It's plain stupid because T-Mac + Steve + Cat won't work.


     
  6. Bobliu

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    Tall guys usually have long careers in the NBA. (Malone is a rare species). For a tall guy at the end of their careers they can still squeeze out a few years. Centers in basket ball do not need to move as quick as a SF or a G. Jabbar and Parish played into their 40's. Sabonis played till 35 with a pair of damaged knees. He would have been long gone if he was a guard with those knees.
     
  7. Bobliu

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    TMac is arguably a top 5 player in the NBA. He is about the same age as Yao with much more athletism in him than Yao. He is a big time scorer leading the NBA in scoring last season. He is definitely a frnachise player for any team in the NBA. With that said, let's see where Yao is better than TMac:

    Yao is 7'6 with skills while TMac is 6'9 with great athletism and skills, but can TMac grow another 9 inches?

    Yao has a better marketing presents than TMac; Even Steve Francis lures more fans than TMac globally.

    Yao is a better role model than TMac; Yao has always done the right thing off the court while being a great teammate on the court and in public. You cannot say that about TMac.

    Yao plays every game of the season while TMac's bad lower back limit him playing less than 80% of the games;

    Yao is a team player without an ego while TMac has a huge ego whitout showing his values as a team player yet;

    Yao's team was in the 7th place in a tough western conference while TMac's was the last in a relatively weak eastern conference;

    Yao is making less than 4 millions per year so far while TMac is making 14+ millions per year.

    ...

    Was it a stupid suggestion or not, judge it yourselves ...
     
  8. Dubious

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    How many talented SG's are there in the NBA?

    And how many talented C's are there?

    Rarity equals value!
    (except in the case of diamonds where the BeBeers monopoly artificially creates the market but I digress...)

    Now you kids go outside and play.
     
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    Hmmmmmm?!!! intriguing trade prospect but NO thanks. Actually at this point I wouldn't trrade him for Garnett or Duncan either.
     
  10. snowmt01

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    I would definitely do that trade :D

    Yao + Mo + Weatherspoon for Duncan :p
     
  11. Bobliu

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    That would a much smarter trade ... But the Spurs would not bite ...
     
  12. RocketForever

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    I found this thread on a Orlando Magic board. Even the Magic fans know that they are not getting Yao. But here we find a Rockets fan who proposes to give him up. Amazing.



    Yao for T-mac?
     
  13. Ying Yang

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    If you traded Yao for TMcG and kept Francis it would be the same situation because Francis is the problem. Francis is not a playmaker and he isnt going to keep setting up TMcG. In fact the problem would quickly come to a head ,as TMcG would not have the same subserviant attitude that Yao has, he would be demanding the ball and Francis wouldnt like it one bit.
     
  14. big11

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    That would a smart trade for the Spurs and dumb trade for the Roxs...

    Who, in his/her right mind, will think Duncan is better than Yao?

    If not for Robinson, I really doubt that he could have two rings.
     
  15. T-man

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    Big 11, I hope you were being sarcastic. Who in their right mind believes it to be the other way around? Duncan is everything we HOPE Yao turns into and not much older

    And I would do the trade of Yao for T-mac and #1 from a basketball standpoint without hesitation. Steve needs a team that runs and guns, which is exactly what we would be with that athletic lineup.
    Steves game has regressed and does not gel with a slow unathletic center(not a knock on Yao cause he is a decent big man, but the truth) and our record has not really improved much since Yao's arrival(not counting the season where everyone was hurt that landed us Yao).
    Without much of an improvement the games have went from exciting to unwatchable in the last couple of years trying to utilize Yao.
    We would win many more games with a lineup of Cato,Okafor,T-Mac,Mobely,Francis than a lineup of Yao,scrub,T-Mac, Jackson,scrub. The first lineup would improve the overall defense with athleticism at every position and offense would score quite a bit more. And the games would be alot funner to watch.

    From a Business standpoint, it would be very foolish though. Don't even need to explain.
     
  16. leewaye

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    It' a wonderful idea for Yao. Maybe the big guy could find a better place to become bigger.:)
     
  17. canoner2002

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    Since it is a silly thread, how about we do the trade, and then propose a 3-way trade. Tmac to Lakers, Kobe to Magic, and Yao to Rox. Looks good to me!

    Net outcome, we pocket the #1.:)
     
  18. Hmm

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    Once again, people just people players together without considering their style of play, their in game personalities and their diversity, adaptibility and ability to fit well and develope chemistry.

    T-mac, Mobley AND Francis in your starting line up= a worser chemistry than the Lakers who lost to Detroit.
    First, about your run and gun theory, actually not yours. Since many have tossed it around, mainly SOF's. Steve, uhm.. in terms you could understand, BLOWS running a fast break. Has terrible ball handling skills, which slows down his 'speed', which isn't at all as fast as Cat's, hell he hesitates to run period.
    No, no, let's not blame JVG, he's been doing this since his Rudy years. If anything would drive T-mac out of town, it'd be Francis. Face it, Francis has trouble be a second option. Because, when he tries to be the second option, his offensive game hits all time lows, his inconsistency makes Cat before JVG look like Mr. Automatic. That mixed with his inability to give the ball up without hesitation, will drive a slashing T-mac nuts. Cat's a better third option than Steve is a second option, that says it all. And no way in hell, do we make T-mac a second option and Steve the first.

    Then of course you have the fact that, this will regress al three of those player's talents and skill. It'll frustrated T-mac, it'll give Mobley who only has ONE year of JVG organized ball a bad influence, and it'll make Steve have a worse year than this one. And JVG will go bonkers. The end result? A horrible season with horrible chemistry and major roster moves. Which will make the previous major move, that you proposed, of trading Yao a complete waste.
    People, you can't just pick out players based on athleticism and scoring. Can't just go, hmm... Allen Iverson, Rip Hamilton and Kobe Bryant. HEY! That's a fast, athletic scoring team, and fun to watch! WE WILL WIN! And then just ASSUME, without recognizing their personalities and styles of play, that they'll get along fine and make for good chemistry.
    Be more logical PLEASE, more reasonable. THINK it through. Let's not make ignorant moves in reality, that you'd make in your playstation.
     
  19. fa7999

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    It won't work until SF3 stops being the worst PG in the league who does not know how to run a fast break.
     
  20. Dallas Rocket

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    Oh, the toll the dreaded "Dead Zone" is taking on some posters.

    :D ;) :D
     

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