Well said. Why offer them anything more than the 2nd rounder? The 4.3 TE is more than most teams can come up with even without adding a pick. Maybe 2nd rounder + a conditional 1st rounder (swap position) but nothing more than that
If the Kings want more breathing space under the luxury tax, Rybo for Potapenko could shave around $2 million off their books.
Do we even have a need for Bonzi to play PG? I would be fine with giving up a 1st Rounder along with our TE for Bonzi. Hopefully we won't be picking anywhere near the lottery for a while so our pick could potentially be in the mid to late 1st round (which typically is a crapshoot). If we're sticking with the "win-now" mentality...this lineup would make us contendors in the WC: Alston-JL3/Spanoullis Wells-Head TMac-Snyder Battier-Howard Yao-Deke
Nope. I've never been a Battier fan. I'm not saying I hope he fails here, I just dont care for him and could care less if he was a rocket or not. I sure didnt go into this offseason hoping we could get Battier. That being said, I hope he wins me over.
Why offer Sacramento anything of value for Wells? Because we'll HAVE to. Imagine that you are the Sacramento Kings. You barely made the playoffs in a tough Western Conference. You realized that you beat out the Houston Rockets for a playoff spot, in part, because of injuries to their star players. WHY would you trade a good player to a team you will be DIRECTLY competing against for a playoff spot UNLESS you were getting something of real value in return? I seriously doubt that Sacramento will facilitate any deal that gets Bonzi Wells on a playoff-caliber team in the Western Conference. If anything, the Kings will proactively push Wells towards Charlotte or another Eastern Conference team (to the extent of any involvement they'd have). Remember, New Orleans gave that HUGE trade exception to the Indiana Pacers not just for the cash that Indy put up, but also to allow the Pacers to beat out Golden State for Al Harrington, keeping a good player away from a fellow Western Conference playoff contender. Remember, there is strategy involved when teams facilitate trades for other teams. Sacramento would not help Houston out on any Bonzi Wells deal unless it benefited them MORE than adding Bonzi would benefit the Rockets. I seriously doubt that a 2nd rounder or Ryan Bowen would qualify.
The TE is enough for the Kings. I really would wonder if making the playoffs is as big a deal for them as either re-sigining Bibby or atleast getting something for him in a sign-and-trade. The TE can be a big asset to facilitate some movement with their roster. They're a team still in transition form the Artest trade.
Even if you dont like battier, it is silly to offer him for bonzi. Sac wants nothing to do with Bonzi, why would we give up someone we really wanted to get someone they dont want at all.
given them a second round pick, the TE is almost like a first round pick, Kings have until next year to use it.
Agreed with you 100%. I doubt the possibility of getting Bonzi to our rosters. Kings will not strenghthen their enemy in the same conference. That makes me remind the trade happened on June 28!
i think you put "s [quotes] around the wrong word. i would write that sentence like this: Sura potentially retiring could be of "value" to the kings.
kings have already said they dont want bonzi so lets not become another gm's trading b!tch maybe a second rounder?
Just as in life, when you can't offer much asset, you gotta give Head to make it happen. My guess is Luther is the piece of asset traded for Bonzi.
I would be ecstatic if we end up getting rid of Juwan for Bonzi. It would be like strangling two stones with one bird. Unfortunately, every team in NBA except Rockets know how useless Juwan really is.
we can offer them my ass to kiss if they actually want anything of value just for us to sign bonzi. they can have the TE and be on their way.
It is NOT all up to Kings. Ultimately, Wells want a job. Other teams cannot offer him that much $, and he won't agree to be s&t for less money. If Kings don't cooperate, then he has to sign with a team straigt up. My understanding is our 2.1 mil is as much as or more than Neggets or Heat can offer straight up. So either s&t or signing straight up, we are offering Wells top $ he can find right now. Kings can be a facilitator and benefit a bit or they can be greedy and get nothing by forcing Wells to go around them. It is time someone talks to Wells directly and let him know what his options are and how he has to play with Kings to get the 4.2 mil, the most he can get at the moment. There is absolutely no need to be blackmailed by Kings.
But Atl facilitated Harrington going to a team in their league. People overestimate the negative of potentially helping another team, even in their conference or division. Just look at the Houston-Memphis trade this summer. Or even the Sac-SA deal a few years ago when they were 2 of probably the 3 best teams in the league. Teams have to take care of their own house 1st. Trading a player to another conference only comes into play if there are comparable alternatives. If Houston has the best deal, Sac would be foolish not to take it. They still have 28 other teams they have to position their team to beat. The above said, I think it would take a 1st round pick or another reasonable asset (e.g., Head, VSpan), just as the Al H to Indy deal did. A late 2nd rounder from 2008 is not worth Sac's trouble in drawing up legal documents. If you add another 3 mil in cash on top, maybe.
