So you do support sending more arms including fighter jets to Ukraine. https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/ukraine.294682/page-411#post-14191766
So youre preferences haven't been made clear since this was 8 months ago? Do you still think jets, which woudl be more weapons, should be sent to Ukraine?
so no, my preferences have been made consistently, and explicitly. so what biden is doing is just enough to prolong the war, but not enough to enable Ukraine to win. so it's worth asking why that might be the case.
Not really. You haven't even clarified some simple questions regarding what you have previously posted. Biden has stated already he is avoiding escalation into a potential direct NATO conflict with Russian and / or where the Russia decides ot use nukes in the conflict. Your argument that you don't support giveing more weapons to Ukraine doesn't match with what you are saying here. As giving more (fighter jets, more advanced missiles, etc) could lead to Ukrainian victory faster. If that isn't your argumen then you're also prolonging the war but not enabling Ukriaine to win based on what they feel would help them win.
https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/ukraine.294682/page-551#post-14488150 In response to a question about more weapons for Ukraine you said "not necessarily more.."
What is the philosophical difference between enough weapons to help and enough to win. Im strongly guessing that Russia wants no part of Russia vs Nato. I’d imagine the use of a single nuke would cause Russia to implode and revolt. Putin continues to bluff but someone just needs to go all in and call. It is the only hope the Russian people have.
(Commentary) How the free media were duped by a fake list of companies staying in Russia | Fortune Mark Twain warned that “a lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.” Caught off guard, legitimate media outlets have printed the unexamined claims of Holocaust deniers, conspiracy theorists, and other dangerous myths. The latest such denial of truth is the false assertion that we invented the Russian business retreat from thin air–and that 1,300 multinational companies never really exited Russia. Amazingly, we are now being forced to defend that the business retreat did happen after all in a newly co-authored research monograph. Not that any of this is particularly new or novel. Yale mass communications pioneer Carl Hovland argued in 1949 that propaganda flourishes with the repetition of lies so that the message lingers even when the low-credibility initial sources are forgotten. This persuasion distortion was labeled “the sleeper effect.” For the past year, our exhausting 24/7 efforts to correct sprouting media myths and disinformation around the Russian invasion of Ukraine have resembled swatting at an arcade whack-a-mole table, except this is not a game, but a war with massive human casualties. We field countless emails from fringe voices echoing Putin’s propaganda–musing whether Putin was justified in the invasion of sovereign Ukraine and the slaughter of innocent civilians, how the EU would freeze without Russian gas, or whether the historic economic blockade of international government sanctions and corporate exits has had any impact on Russia. We have painstakingly corrected those planted falsehoods to get the truth back in the public narrative. Yet still, the strafing of moms with their babes in their arms waiting in breadlines are unjustly labeled as fakes and actors. We even see questions over whether or not Russia is really invading Ukraine and whether they are instead suffering from internal attacks on their own hospitals and apartment buildings by their elected president! Academic opportunists the past week showed once more how pernicious, naïve misinformation can catch fire and consume the truth, especially when dressed with the veneer of academic credibility. When Putin invaded Ukraine last year, we chronicled the unprecedented, historic mass exodus of over 1,000 global companies from Russia. These companies made bold announcements, removed their employees, wrote down their abandoned assets, and shuttered facilities. Our volunteer expert operatives on the ground and online confirmed such dramatic actions. We have continued to faithfully update this list with new entries as more companies divested from Russia over the last few months. This historic phenomenon–and our involvement–drew widespread coverage across media ranging from Washington Post, Bloomberg, and The New York Times to CNBC and Fortune. President Joe Biden and President Volodymyr Zelensky cited and celebrated the Russian business retreat. I even testified to the U.S. Congress, in addition to advising countless CEOs and policymakers on pulling out of Russia. However, in the last few days, we have been besieged by bewildering evidence-free assertions, that we somehow grossly exaggerated the Russian business retreat. Last week, two European authors released a publication claiming that only 8.5% of Western companies have actually pulled out of Russia. This study was published without supporting evidence, on the non-peer-reviewed, open-submission platform SSRN. The headline was immediately, uncritically picked up by reporters, who rushed to publish stories that parrot the same cynical talking points as the researchers. Buttressed by a suspicious number of tweets and other social media posts from shell accounts (bearing an uncanny resemblance to disinformation bots), we were besieged by international messages angrily accusing us of inventing the Russian business retreat. But all these journalists and critics missed an inconvenient truth: The “research” claiming only 8.5% of Western companies had actually pulled out of Russia was based on false data, as the academics’ own files blatantly reveal. What stands out is that this is NOT a list the 1,404 Western companies as they claim but is a list of hundreds of individual PEOPLE–many of whom are Russian oligarch cronies of Putin–and hundreds of Russian companies, as evidenced here. This blatant data fabrication is obvious the minute anyone opens the data file–most egregiously, from lines 737 to 947 of tab three. Here are some select examples of Russian individuals who were conflated with “Western companies” ... In short, two writers drew up a list padded with hundreds of Russian oligarchs and Russian businesses–and discovered (surprise!) that Russian businesses continue to do business in Russia, then passed it off as “Western multinational companies remain in Russia” to unsuspecting journalists and clickbait-seeking outlets. When confronted with these errors, rather than promptly retract their stories, the media outlets decided to cast it as an academic catfight, a narrative perfectly tailored to a conflict-loving audience to spark clicks rather than illuminate the truth. This is not a tedious scholarly debate over statistical methodology or rival academic theories. Rather it is about the denial of actual historic facts without evidence. A list of patently Russian individuals and companies was reported as a list of Western multinationals without being fact-checked. Amazingly, some media outlets continue to refuse to retract their mistaken trumpeting of a patently misrepresented research study–even though other outlets have courageously reported on the blatantly fabricated data. The wise readers of Fortune will thus have to look at the underlying dataset of the European researchers themselves to see just how few genuine Western multinationals are really on the list–and why the claim in headlines that the Russian business retreat didn’t actually happen is pure fiction. Anybody can view all 1,000+ companies that have left on our websites with clear sourcing and evidence. A year into Vladimir Putin’s bloody invasion of Ukraine, we are reminded of how even a free press eagerly undermines truth in favor of drama. Putin must be delighted.
I don't know why we are announcing what we are sending just send it.....I do like that we are helping other countries send their old Russian gear and giving them better US gear.....good for the economy. DD
We announce what we are sending so it helps allies send their stuff also. Its a form of peer pressure. They announced Bradley's and then that gave cover to Germans and French to send theirs also. Austin said another reason is morale boost for the Ukrainians. They get happy on the front line knowing help is coming. I wonder if trump even realizes how utterly insane this talk is as a candidate. He's literally giving Russians reason to fight because they think trump will force zelensky to give up territory. All trump is doing is giving Russians a boost in morale while scaring Ukrainians. Why doesn't this guy just disappear already. He's such a poison on this country.
yeah totally insane, wanting to negotiate a peace deal rather than have conflict with a regime with thousands of nukes
Yes… I’m sure that Biden agreed to give 20% of another sovereign nation to Russia. This is about as believable as all of the John Durham bullshit you were so readily and gullibly believing. No one knows what will happen long term in the Ukraine because in 2024 DeSantis or some other Republican could be in the White House and bend over for Putin and abandon Ukraine.
It amazes me that some so easily forget that Ukraine has been invaded. Ukrainians are being tortured and murdered by an outside aggressor nation. There is nothing wrong with what Zelensky said.
