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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by jev5555, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Hard to say. Maybe Koobs called a halfback pass that keeps them out of the playoffs.

    It is hilarious to me that this argument can happen at all. The guy hasn't been to the playoffs in 5 years and has had one winning season. He has replaced all but one player on the roster with "his guys." ALL BUT ONE!!!! Andre is the only player on the team that he didn't sign or pick. Every single coach is his guy.

    Considering all that we want to just absolve him of everything and let him have another year because he's good at offensive play calling?

    Baffling.
     
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    I'm saying.

    there's not a franchise in the league that wouldn't can this guy...save maybe one.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, I guess you should update your sig - unless you're just waiting for the season to end to get a better number.

    If the season ended today, you could go ahead and add 2 more wins.....and 7 more losses.

    In 5 years, he only has 10 wins against winning teams. Wow.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Um look at the offense though. It's real good yo.
     
  5. J.R.

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    Didnt they have an average defense last year? Oh wait, something else was wrong with the team at the time. I believe the reason/excuse was no running game. Year before 'Schaub was hurt' was the reason/excuse. This year, no defense.

    You can look at my sig and see the numbers but..

    5-7 four years in a row. How to explain that? (Besides the typical 4-5 game losing streak they go on in the middle of the season, which knocks them out).

    9-19 in the division?!

    1-4 in the game following the bye week: A week to prepare and this is the best you can come up with? 1 win?

    You can call it a pessimistic view or whatever but why should a Texans fan expect different in year six if he's back? (Mind blowing to even think he could get or deserves six years. :eek: :mad: :confused: :eek: )
     
  6. justtxyank

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    BUT THE OFFENSE IS GOOOD!!!

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  7. Major

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    I already addressed this a couple of times. That's all fine and good - but if that's the argument he's making, then he's arguing that it's the better option - not the safer one. Those two things are very different ideas.

    If he's arguing it's the better option, then it has nothing to do with all the random reasons he's pushed forward in the "safety" issue - needing to make the right hire this time, placating a fan base, etc. If he truly believes Kubiak-as-HC-in-name-only is better than the other options (besides Cowher), then none of that other stuff matters.
     
  8. Major

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    So what exactly are you suggesting? That they play hard all season but only well during the end part to make them win?

    And that's a strength of his? What exactly is he "good" for in that part?
     
  9. Major

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    Of course, that ignores years of evidence to the contrary. If they had an average defense this year, they wouldn't be running their hurry up offense at ends of games to score lots of points in furious comebacks. And they would just find other creative ways to lose, as they did against Baltimore when their defense was decent.
     
  10. No Worries

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    It is really hard for the casual fans to evaluate their football team.

    What is really wrong with our defense? Is Bush a genius and our players suck? Does Bush suck and our players are allstars in waiting? Do they both suck?

    What is right about our offense? How can a third round QB put up those kinds of numbers? How can a undrafted RB be a top rusher with a meh OL? Our second best receiver is a seventh round draft pick we got from the Bengals scrap heap?

    A case could easily be made that the Texans offense is playing over their heads under Kubiak, given their talent. It is unclear that a new OC can get the same results, especially if the new, proven, defensive minded HC goes away from the ZBS. My bet is that a new HC would change the offensive schemes and that our current personnel will struggle and eventually get replaced. Any guesses when the new HC gets the Texans into the playoffs?
     
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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7342489.html

    Echoes my worry about the MNF game ending in OT...McNair would LOVE any reason to stick with Kubiak.

    I just pray that if does keep Kubiak in place (no Cowher :-/), that he doesn't just wipe out Bush. Someone new HAS to be installed to make the major football decisions, something Kubiak has been a wretched failure at.
     
  12. No Worries

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    Playing hard is not a given in the NFL. If Kubiak's teams did not play hard, that would be "bad" right?
     
  13. Major

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    The Texans rushing offense during the last 4 years:

    2007: 22nd (24th in yards per attempt)
    2008: 13th (13th)
    2009: 30th (31st)
    2010: 7th (3rd)

    Outside of this year, the ZBS has been nothing special. Maybe the results are more the player than the awesome scheme.

    Next year. Had we fired Kubiak last year as many of us advocated, I think they'd be in the playoffs this year.
     
  14. Major

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    "They play hard but poorly" is not a plus for a head coach. Period.

    Besides which, you have yet to demonstrate that they play hard all season - we don't know if they play hard the whole time and just play well at the end, or if they don't play hard for the first chunk of the season.

    And, as was pointed out earlier, several players this season have come out and basically said players aren't playing hard.
     
  15. J.R.

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    He'll 'force' Kubiak to fire some guys on D and....Kubiak will get to select different/new guys on his own again.
     
  16. justtxyank

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    :rolleyes:


    If his title were offensive coordinator this would be high praise. Since he is a head coach this doesn't mean a whole lot.
     
  17. J.R.

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    I dont know if they hard all season or not, but this year and last year, coaches job potentially on the line, it's 'Rally the troops, let's play hard for Coach Kubes and help save his job.'
     
  18. No Worries

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    The below average Ravens offense scored 28 points in four quarters against the Texans. That is decent?
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Koobs stays. :(
     
  20. justtxyank

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    Why are you so convinced they play hard now? Pollard and Amobi have both indicated that they might not be. They disappear for an entire half of nearly every game.

    If that is a great job at getting his players to play hard for him, what would be "not playing hard?"
     

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