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Time for the Coaching Carousel

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by jev5555, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. No Worries

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    Kubiak picked these players, especially the OL, to run the ZBS. Are you sure that they would do better in a non-ZBS system?
     
  2. MadMax

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    WHO THE HELL CARES!!!???


    the team as a whole isn't cutting. i don't care if these players and the zone blocking scheme are the greatest scheme ever!!!!!

    THEY'RE

    NOT

    WINNING!!!!!!!!


    HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!
     
  3. justtxyank

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    REP POINTS EN ROUTE MY FRIEND

    Edit: AH FOILED AGAIN!

     
  4. MadMax

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    their offense scored 21..not 28. special teams scored a TD on the kickoff.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    And they've failed.

    He's not an offensive coordinator. He's a headcoach. The success of one side of the ball 5 years into his career can't be justification for keeping him.
     
  6. MadMax

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    i feel like clark griswold getting to wallyworld only to find out it's closed.

    "Texans aren't going to the playoffs again this year. Moose out front shoulda told ya."
     
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  7. justtxyank

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    Oh, and Gary Kubiak did not invent the ZBS and the Texans are not the only team in the NFL to use it.

    There is no reason to believe that if a new head coach comes in here he will refuse to utilize the team in a way he believes will work.
     
  8. No Worries

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    Tell me how they make the playoffs.
     
  9. justtxyank

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    Oh, and it's taken 5 years for the "players he picked" "to run the ZBS" to actually translate into serious success in the running game. Prior to this year the running game was nothing special and the O-Line was getting blown up.
     
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    That is disgusting to read. Makes Bob sound incredibly naiive.

    Bob, of course the other owners are going to admire the comeback effort. It's easy for them to sit and watch on TV and say that. But deep down they are all know this franchise isn't going anywhere with the staff as is.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Tell me how the 2006 Saints make the playoffs

    Edit: The 2006 Saints can go from 3-13 to the playoffs in one year but you don't think a 9-7 or 8-8 Texans team can get to the playoffs with a better coach?
     
  12. Major

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    By playing better.
     
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  13. justtxyank

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    MadMax, I went and scoured the board for good posts to rep just so I could come back in here and dole out some rep to you and Major for your contributions to this thread.
     
  14. No Worries

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    with mostly the same set of players?

    if you answer yes, do really believe that the coaching staff is holding back the players from being great?
     
  15. No Worries

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    Can I give you a counter example of every 3-13 team that hired a new coach and then did not make the playoffs the next year?
     
  16. J.R.

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    Sure sounds like Kubiak is safe. Got that loser's mentality. SMH. "Hey, winning isn't necessary, at least you came close. At least you kids were battlin' out there. Let me give you a trophy for coming close and battlin' your tails off.' :eek:

    http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...practice/22ecbd97-0394-46bc-863b-49f0af6d4d59

    Maybe Arian Foster was right, we're still 2-3 years away :eek:
     
  17. emjohn

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    Things that would have very likely been different:

    Bush and Gibbs would not be "uncoaching" the defense into the Hall of Fail

    Jackson would not have been drafted in the first round and cemented in the starting role with Israeli defense forces fighting off anyone calling for his benching

    Higher chance Schobel isn't rebuffed in August by a coach open to the idea that you don't have to stubbornly insist that your roster is too good for a former Pro Bowler.

    Doesn't have his defense scheme to play a receiver's inside hip on deep balls when up 4 points with 50 seconds to go....or call Man-2 in that situation at all. Other pointers on defense, such as: when you have a clean play on the ball, intercept it.

    Runs the ball when his RB is shredding over 6 ypc , his QB is bumbling around with a rating of 12, and the defense he's playing is vulnerable to the run.

    Expects his team to show up every week and can script the first couple of possessions well enough that the team averages better than 2 points in first quarter play.

    Last year, while plenty were popping champagne over a winning season and coming close to a wildcard, I was thoroughly annoyed that his underachievements cost the team no less than 2 games and a playoff berth in a golden opportunity schedule.

    This year, the schedule was tough enough that I never expected to see a playoff berth....but I also knew that Kubiak's bungling was going to lead to a step back from last year's win total. I got ragged on by a couple posters for it....but I've correctly predicted 11 of the 13 games so far and their win total to date (5-8). If McNair had the nutsack to make changes rather than cheer on the Emperor's New Clothes Parade...we are 7-6 today.
     
  18. Major

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    Yes.

    Yes. Teams make coaching changes all the time and immediately improve. I do not believe Kubiak is the only coach on the planet that can coach the Texans well. In case, I don't think he coaches the team well at all.

    You just made the argument that the team plays hard, as shown by the fact that they win games late in the season. If they are playing hard all season but consistently losing for the majority of it, that means they are not playing well. I'm suggesting the Texans try to get a coach who's strength is "play hard and well" instead of "play hard and poorly."
     
  19. No Worries

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    Bill Cowher would run the offense and defense that he likes. I would not be surprised if he did set up the same offense and defense he ran in Pittsburgh. Thus, goodbye 4-3 and goodbye ZBS.
     
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  20. Major

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    Irrelevant. You seem to be in the "I'm scared it might get worse so let's stick with mediocrity!" camp. I don't think most of us are in that camp.
     

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