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The Summertime "Random Trade Idea" Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, May 5, 2008.

  1. W22_STREAK

    W22_STREAK Member

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    lol. I really hope everyone here knows this:

    you can't do a deal where you gain something in return for not matching an offer sheet made to a RFA!
     
  2. flangehead1

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    It's so boring, so I get some random idea to get some fun

    Battier + filler(pick) for Jason Terry
    BJax + Brooks + filler(pick) for Artest
    sign Barry, resign Landry

    Lineup:
    Yao/Dorsey
    Scola/Landry
    Artest/Greene
    T-MAC/Barry
    Terry/Alston

    Time to celebrate 2009 NBA champion!!!!!!

    :) as I said, for fun
     
  3. loveofthegame44

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    July 8, 2008, 12:30AM
    COMMENTARY
    Instead of a quick fix, Rockets might play the waiting game


    By STEVE CAMPBELL
    Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

    THE first handful of names on the wish list stands headband, shoulder, biceps and tattoo above the rest.

    Those are the NBA players out there Daryl Morey considers the "perfect" complement to the Rockets' cornerstone pair, Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady.

    Perfect, and virtually unattainable.

    The next tier on the wish list has the names of 10 players who aren't quite perfect fits, which is why they're considerably more attainable when the time is right.

    Morey would love to share the list, of course. He really would, but then he'd have to eliminate everybody who reads it — and that's just plain bad business.

    But you just know somebody would start blabbing, and down the drain would go the Rockets' best-laid plans.

    Like it or not, Rockets fans will have to trust Morey and coach Rick Adelman on this. Actually, the fans don't have to trust anybody about anything, but Morey and Adelman are fully aware the Rockets as constructed are a nice team that doesn't have the chops to be a champion.

    As constructed.

    "That's our main focus: Get one more significant player on the roster somehow," Morey said. "That's the goal. That's my job, so hopefully we will get it done."

    Sorry, Rockets fans smarting from yet another hasty playoff departure: There is no immediate gratification in sight. In his second offseason as Rockets general manager, Morey's objectives are to add free-agent shooting guard
    Brent Barry and retain restricted free-agent forward Carl Landry.

    The rest of the NBA is not aquiver.

    The Rockets don't have the salary-cap room to get into the bidding for Elton Brand. They don't have anything to offer Corey Maggette that would make them any more attractive than Boston, San Antonio or Detroit.

    So they've set their sights on Barry, 36, a sharpshooter who averaged 7.1 points in 31 games last season. Barry won't tip the balance of power in the West, but he played a complementary role on two championship teams in San Antonio.

    As much of an imperative as Morey feels to make a wow move, the time is not now.

    Why not push for a major deal now, when it could create an enthusiasm and anticipation of the season to come for the fandom?

    Why not give the players and coaches an entire season to familiarize themselves with each other?

    Shouldn't Rockets owner Leslie Alexander be demanding immediate action?

    Because other teams have hopes to stoke and tickets to sell, too. The Rockets aren't going to add a major piece to a championship puzzle by getting a contender to break up its core. Morey figures he'll have to bide his time until one of the pretenders gets a slap in the face from reality.

    "Teams can pretty unrealistically think they've got a shot ... go through the first month or two of the season," Morey said. "Then it becomes apparent that they don't have a shot."

    At that point, teams become willing to make moves for financial reasons. At that point, the expiring contracts of Bobby Jackson and Steve Francis (nearly $9 million between the two) could expedite a deal for that third scoring option the Rockets crave so much. At that point, the depth that rookies Donté Greene and Joey Dorsey provide come into play. If Greene and Dorsey aren't pieces to a trade puzzle, they can give the Rockets enough strength in numbers to part with one or more of the veterans ahead of them in the pecking order (Luis Scola, Shane Battier, Landry, Chuck Hayes).

    Sacramento has made little secret of its intention to move forward Ron Artest if it falls out of contention. The Rockets need to think long and hard about whether they would want to go that route. The correct answer: No.

    Maybe Milwaukee will take a leave of senses and put Michael Redd on the market, or Denver will decide it has overspent and underachieved. Some team somewhere is bound to get fed up with its core group and decide to make changes. Morey plans to be in position to, as he put it, "go all-in" when the time comes.

    "The thing I like most about our team is our great players are in their prime," Alexander said. "There's plenty of years for us to be really, really good."

    McGrady is under contract for two more seasons. By the end of the 2010 season, the only definite salary obligation on the books will be the $7.3 million coming to Battier. Yao has a player's option to play out the 2010-2011 season for just under $17 million, which means the Rockets will have salary-cap room to go in just about any direction they choose.

    Psst: That just happens to be the summer that LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Manu Ginobili, among others, can be free agents. The Rockets could lock up Yao, a high-end free agent and have money to spend.
    "We're in a good situation," Morey said. "We can go all-in a little bit with this core, which we think is a good core. And if for whatever reason it doesn't work, we've got a lot of flexibility."

    In Morey We Trust.
     
  4. Rhay1

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    Why are we releasing Jackson? He isn't a FA; we wouldn't get any cap relief. He has a guaranteed contract, right?[/QUOTE]


    I don't think we're releasing Jackson. I believe Morey is hoping someone else becomes more desperate than us...

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    :cool:
     
  5. mms

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    Rumor says CM goes to GSW for 10m/yr.
     
  6. tharges

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    Latest rumblings heard Elton Brand goes to Philly.

    Maggette goes to Golden State source Mark Stein ESPN.

    Morey ask Barry to give answer by morning, so that if the answer is no the Rockets can move into another direction. Supposedly we are interested in Chris Anderson New Orleans Center????? Source was Mark Berman KRIV
     
  7. tharges

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    Pietrus will sign with Orlando magic wednesday......ESPN

    The dominoes are starting to fall lllllllll/////__ __
     
  8. astros148

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    lol i knew from the beg that we werent going to do **** this off season, all talk. Ill bet anything we'll almost have this exact same lineup next year, either yao or tmac will get injured and we wont make it past the first round again.

    ugh lex open up your wallet
     
  9. galaxtico

    galaxtico New Member

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    Anyone got pictures of our arena, which I can use for my site:

    http://www.stadiumzone.net

    I'm going to make a big NBA section, but it's hard to find high quality pictures of the arena.
    Thanks for the help guys.
     
  10. Stilldream'n34

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    the knicks are obviously looking to shed salary and I think Jamal Crawford could br had for some expiring contracts like a combination of bobby jackson and luther head. I think Crawford is their best player so they may not want to move him but at the same time everyone knows the Knicks are looking at the bigger picture which is 2010. Crawford is a combo guard that can put up big numbers. I'm interested
     
  11. skamal4484

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    Al Harrington shouldn't be that hard to pry away now that they got Maggette. Give them some of our young guys and expiring contracts. The Warriors are known to be a little cheap (letting Baron get away is a prime example).

    He's got a big contract but it expires in 2010, perfect fit with our plan to keep 2010 flexibility.

    I know it doesn't sound great for a guy who makes 9.5M, but he can play small forward here. He can finish and shoot, not drive so much though.

    After writing this post I'm starting to think it may not be the greatest idea, but it could be something to fall back on closer to the trade deadline.
     
  12. mister pc

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    Chuck Hayes for JR Smith


    This trade works for the Rockets because we are already stacked at forward (Scola, Landry, Greene) and no longer have use for Chuck Hayes, especially considering Dorsey could play some minutes at forward. The Rockets desperately need a scorer to come off the bench for Tracy McGrady. There is no depth at shooting guard after TMAC.

    The Nuggets already have enough scorers, but need help on the defensive end. They might be willing to give up Smith for Hayes. Hayes is a hard worker known for getting loose balls, which would help the Nuggets. The Rockets could even throw in a 2nd round pick to make this deal go through.
     
  13. Shay

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    Actually imo no way we can get Harrington or Stephen Jackson now.
    If they signed Maggette they are looking to compete so at least until the deadline when they see they have no chance both of them stay put imo.
    I can see them try and trade Harrington for a pg , we don't have nothing to offer , I don't know if they wouild be intersted in Brooks , probably not.
     
  14. rz04

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    The Nuggets already have the likes of KMart, Nene, and Najera playing at the PF.

    Also you have to consider that the Denver Nuggets's playbook doesn't have the word "Defense", and it is hard to see them wanting a defensive player who have almost no offensive game, especially if they have to trade Smith who was their most efficient scorer coming off the bench (12.3pts in 19.2mins last season).
     
  15. W22_STREAK

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    any chance of us getting Stephen Jackson? they've now signed corey maggette so he should be somewhat targettable. with the loss of baron they might as well start rebuilding around monta
     
  16. DaronMalakian

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    It seems that Roger Mason signed with Spurs.

    link

    (I can't create new threads)
     
  17. ai_111

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    Bad News:
    It says that the Lakers and Kings are close to deal Odom for Artes, Thomas.
    I hope it s false.

     
  18. ROXTXIA

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    I think the article expresses the Lakers' interest but not that a deal is imminent.
     
  19. hooroo

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    If Brent Barry or Maurice Evans accepts the LLE...

    Alston + Battier + Head + 2009 1st round draft pick for Billups.
    Herrmann accepts offer from Rockets. Pistons do not match.

    Francis for Azubuike (S&T)
    Landry accepts offer from Warriors. Rockets do not match.

    Split part of MLE between Walter Herrmann, Kelenna Azubuike, and minimum contract/s.


    (Alston), Stuckey, ***
    Hamilton, (Head), Afflalo
    Prince, (Battier), ***
    McDyess, Johnson, Sharpe
    Wallace, Maxiell, Samb

    (Billups), Jackson, Brooks
    McGrady, Azubuike
    (Herrmann), Barry/Evans, Greene
    Scola, Harris, Dorsey, Novak
    Yao, Hayes, Deke
     
  20. hooroo

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    If Barry doesn't sign on...

    Toronto have signed Roko Ukic as their backup PG. They might be in for a shock if Calderon is injured.

    Battier + Jackson for Parker + Kapono + Moon = -$2.31M for Rockets.

    Harris + Novak traded via min salary exception.


    Calderon, Jackson, Ukic
    (Delfino/RFA), Adams, ***
    Battier, Graham, Harris
    Bosh, Humphries, Novak
    O'Neal, Bargnani, Jawai

    Alston, Brooks, Francis
    Parker, Kapono, Head
    McGrady, Moon, Greene
    Scola, Landry, Dorsey
    Yao, Hayes, Deke
     

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