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The Summertime "Random Trade Idea" Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, May 5, 2008.

  1. Hottoddie

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    killer instinct,

    I've found that it's best to let it pass when someone hammers your ideas. Calling them out accomplishes nothing. Just keep throwing your ideas out there, but try to put yourself in the other team's shoes. If you were them, would you honestly agree to the trade?
     
  2. saleem

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    Look,if I said anything offensive to you I'm sorry. I don't think I'm smarter than anyone on this board. I learn a lot of things on this board which is part of the reason why I visit it regularly. We all know everything on this board is hypothetical.We are just fans,not pro basketball people.We don't work for the Rockets either.
     
  3. Deckard

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    Aren't you hypothetical?
     
  4. mcgrady33090

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    peja for shane , or boby+brooks+1st rounder for artest or shane+1st rounder for prince, or scola boby 1st rounder for yi and simmons, landry+boby+head for Miller+2nd rounder
     
  5. Shay

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    LOL no need to over react but imo my trade is better than worse because it shows a pattern.
    GS are looking to get younger so with my trade they save money to re-sign Ellis and Biedrins , they get a pick and a shooter that is a known a warriors killer.
    Why would Memphis trade the 4th pick in the draft for Chuck Hayes and Luther Head , WHY tell me one good reason?????

    Even if they feel they have too many points , they will trade Critenton or Lowry not the 4th pick in the draft.

    And a lot of teams will offer so much better value than Head and Hayes , it's not even close.
    I know we will need to add Greene for them to consider.
     
  6. killer instinct

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    Sorry guys I'm new and I respect everyones opinion. If I overreacted I apologize. I was excited to have people to talk rockets with and I did not want this to be a negative experience right from the beginning. If I perpetuated the situation...I'm truly sorry. We have the same passion for the same team this should be fun. We all want the rockets to get better and to a degree its frustrating with so little to work with. I'l keep my cool in the future and I appreciate you guys input.

    New to town the job search as a special education assistant is hard in the summer months......... THANKS for taking it easy on me.

    I WOULD LOVE STEPHEN JACKSON SHAY...keep plugging away.
     
  7. Shay

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    It's just this lack of news that is killing us , it's so boring.
    I just want the summer league to begin so I can see what Donte and Dorsey got.
    I hope Greene will look to drive a lot.

    And about trades I feel like Morey has some options or something.
    Otherwise I can't see why we are not intersted in Maggette when he said we need a big 2/3 who can slash to the basket.

    I wish something will happen aklready , but I feel like other than signing Landry and Barry nothing will happen till the deadline.
     
  8. t-mac4bigmac

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    I really think Bostjan Nachbar should be a top target in free agency. He's an unrestricted FA and I think can be had for less than the MLE. He can shoot the ball from 3, but is really more of a slasher type player, he has athleticism, and is 6'9".

    Right there, the Rockets improve upon four things we really need:
    -outside shooting
    -a scorer off the bench who can take it to the basket
    -athleticism
    -size

    To me, it makes a lot of sense for the Rox to sign him. Also add that he's had experience playing with Yao before. I see him as a poor man's Mike Miller, but a rich man's Brent Barry. It would be a pipedream to get Miller, but I think Nachbar would be a good compromise. And he is much younger than Barry.
     
  9. loveofthegame44

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    Long time reader first time poster $$
    I think you are on to something. Boki would do great in that role.

    GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% PPG
    07-08 NJN 75 1 22.1 0.402 0.359 0.786 9.8

    needs to up the fg% and i would like to know how many ft he attempted.

    boki>posey

    but i think morey isn't looking to free agency to improve the team. he is waiting for a trade dead line deal to make us a real contender in the west.
     
  10. saleem

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    You don't have to apologize to me. Welcome to the board.
     
  11. King1

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    Bad back. No thanks. We've already got that problem
     
  12. King1

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    You honestly think Boki is better then James Posey?
     
  13. loveofthegame44

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    yes when it comes to creating and finishing at the basket. i've seen him slash and dunk on many people and Ive seen him grab off reb and dunk on centers. youtube has it. i didn't know he had back problems though i just saw 76games 22mpg and 10ppg

    posey has him on intangables, def, and set shot but don't we already have battier.

    It doesnt matter we aren't signing anyone not named Landry or Barry durring FA.

    We will have to wait till the trade deadline.
     
  14. t-mac4bigmac

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    For our team, I would think so. While Posey is a better defender than Boki, this team needs more of a scoring threat.

    But it can also be argued that Posey brings something that not many other players have: experience of being a 2-time champion. But from a player's skills standpoint, Nachbar ability to score fits the Rockets better.
     
  15. King1

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    Posey is a solid, clutch 3 pt shooter. He is also a better athlete then Boki and can finish at the rim. He also gives you veteran experience and outstanding defense. I honestly feel Posey is a much better (and smarter player) on both ends of the court. Plus, you can't ignore the bad back.
     
  16. Nitro1118

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    Very, VERY false. I am from NJ, so I watch many Nets games throughout the year, and next to VC/RJ Boki has been the best slahser on the team the last 2 years. 8% more of his FGA were inside than Posey, and he finished at a solid 53% EFG inside. 5% of his FGA were dunks. Less of his inside shots were assisted also, showing he is better at creating off the dribble and finishing at the rim than Posey.
     
  17. King1

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    How much of Posey did you watch? He played his role in Boston but has much more ability then you think. To be honest, I'm not impressed with Boki or Posey of the dribble.

    People use these weird stats for everything. Normally those type of stats don't really tell the whole story. Posey was a vital piece of a championship team with a ton of suitors this offseason. Boki is looking for a job and has a back problem. In terms of athleticism, I watched Posey countless times steal the ball from his man and race down the court for big time dunks. I've seen Boki play. He's not the athlete Posey is. We can agree to disagree though.
     
  18. Nitro1118

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    Posey has been shoved down my throat the last 3 seasons, with Miami and Boston getting so many nationally televised games. I know both of their games very well.

    Weird stats? All the stats I posted showed was that Boki goes to the basket much more often, and dunks more often, showing he is the better athlete and more willing slasher. If you want some video proof:

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    Finding a few Posey dunks on youtube is near impossible because they are so rare. An when he does dunk, he barely gets above the rim.

    Nothing to do with who is the better athlete and finisher.

    Really? He had 12 dunks all of last season, while Nachbar had 27. Posey also played more minutes, and played in a much better better offense (9th in league, Nets were 25th).
     
  19. t-mac4bigmac

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    Also realistically, we have a much better chance of landing Boki than Posey. Posey is is getting lots of interest from teams and it may take a whole MLE to get him, while Nachbar is kinda flying under the radar. IMO Nachbar is the best REALISTIC free agent that we can land.
     
  20. Agentzero

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    I want Stephen Jackson .
    To get him ,morey has to sign Landry with MLE ,and trade Landry along with bjax ,head ,brooks ,hayes ,woods as a package for jackson and Al Harrinton,dont ever dream of getting Jackson without swallowing Al's trash contract .
    Looking back at Warrior's deal with charloit at 07 draft,trading Jason just for a rookie,it's clear that don nelson has set up his mind to rebuild the warriors,then they let davis walk this year, I don't think don hasn't considering trading jackson ,who may be the only valuable roster left in his team.
    As nelson is preparing to rebuild ,the expiring contracts and potential guys are prefered by them,while the experienced guys like Jackson are more useful for rockets.Jackson is much better than Posey at least, Jackson can be an ideal backup at G/Fposition ,he is also a good defender,while he's more agressive than Battier at the offensive end.
    More importantly ,he is more tough in personality so that he can be back to his prime after staying in prisons .He is a tough and aggressive guy that we need.Just because of his aggress had he been put into prison so many times.
     

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