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The Summertime "Random Trade Idea" Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, May 5, 2008.

  1. dankster00

    dankster00 New Member

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    Trade Battier, Rafer, Head and 1st round for Josh Howard. Re-sign Gerald Green.

    PG: Green/Francis/Jackson
    SG: T-Mac
    SF: Josh Howard
    PF: Landry/Scola
    C: Yao/Mutombo
     
  2. PDJACK7

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    I don't believe Howard is worth that much, and Green is not a point gaurd.
     
  3. PDJACK7

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    I agree with you on the McGrady/Marion deal, but Green can be a real good player. Some guys need someone(veteran) to push and motivate them to get them going in the right direction. He has been on a young Boston team that was going nowhere and the only vet player was Pierce and he wanted out. Then he went to another young team in Minn. and that didn't help. I feel if he is in training camp with the Rockets on a team with intense practices and professionalism looking to win a championship will bring the best out of him. Playing against McGrady and Battier will help also. I think the Rockets should take a chance.
     
  4. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    I kinda like this and I kinda dont. I would definitely trade Stevie or BJ before Rafer and hand over a second rounder or two berfore #1. Plus Dallas clearly stated they would not trade JHow to a conference rival. What I want to know is what I woul take to get either Monta Ellis or Elton Brand. I would give up anything except Tmac and Yao.
     
  5. Rockets1616

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    The PG spot there is really sketchy. Francis is a big ? and we don't even know if green should be in the NBA. Is he even a PG anyway? Like someone said above Dallas already made it clear they wouldn't trade Howard to a conference rival.
     
  6. rterry

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    Sometimes it is hard to be respectful when replying to these posts that are so ill informed, but I will do my best.

    1. You can't just re-sign somebody and play him in the d-league without him being on the 15 man roster. I am ok with signing him for minimum money, but when you suggest this you have to release someone else of the 15 man roster. Please suggest who you would let go.

    2. Steve Francis is done. I can't understand how anyone is still holding out hope for this guy. He has been done for 3 years and we got first hand knowledge of it last year. Please give it up on Steve Francis. He is useful only as an expiring contract.

    3/4.Landry is an unrestricted free agent. You can't trade him until you sign him. The only reason a team will trade for him is if they can't pay him as much as the Rockets and need the Rockets to sign him and then trade him to them. Since most everybody believes him to be at most an MLE contract everyone has the money to sign him outright.

    On top of all that, Landry was great last year. He is not the same player than some Bozo on the almighty Hawks that couldn't find the floor. Landry was a big time contributor for this team. Unless, you have insider information that his knees are much worse than Morey is indicating, this move makes no sense.

    5. I don't agree that we need to upgrade Alston and Battier to compete for a championship. We need a healthy team and legitimate backups at SG, C, and PG. Whether any of that is accomplishable is a seperate argument.

    If I buy your argument, then please tell me how we accomplish the task. This is a random trade thread, not a wishful thinking thread.

    6. Fine. I'd love to get Hinrick. How?

    7. I am mixed on the T-mac for Billups, Prince trade unless you already had another trade in the mix for a legit SG then I would pull the trigger. I wouldn't trade T-mac for just anything, but it is crazy to not listen and hop on anything that blows you away.

    8. A career 20, 10, 2 center is not over-rated. I believe you should listen to trade offers for any player including Yao, but I see very little chance of getting a reasonable offer for at worst the second best center in the league.

    9. We already have 2 legit PF's. If you're going to dream why not dream big. Kobe, Lebron, Paul, etc.
     
  7. hooroo

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    Battier + 25th pick for Brian Cardinal + 5th pick

    Use 5th pick or trade down for either Bayless, Westbrook, Alexander or Rush

    Sign Kelenna Azubuike or Matt Barnes or Walter Herrmann.


    With Marc Gasol and Battier I think they're back to contending. Grizzlies are losing money they need the wins and attendance.

    Conley, Lowry
    Miller, Crittenton
    Gay, Battier
    Darko, Warrick, Cardinal
    Gasol, Collins
     
  8. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    I like that were saying you screw us we screw you back. Right? I do like that trade with the #5 pick you can get your PG of the future in Westbrook, Bayless, or Eric Gordon. I think to many of us covet Shane Battier a little too much. We can try to get someone like James Posey for cheaper to help defensively. And again if you select Westbrook you have a good defensive player in him. I dont think a lot of people know a lot about Hermann but I like the Argentinian to play along side Luis Scola.
     
  9. rterry

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    I don't think Memphis will do this unless they are absolutely determined to unload Cardinal's contract. That lineup has no hope of contending in the West. They would be better off attendance-wise to sign their 5th pick and generate excitement surrounding Gay and the new guy.

    The other guys you mention would be nice, but you don't say how we do it.
     
  10. leebigez

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    After listening to the gm of the bucks, john hammond on sirius radio full court press, there will be a lot of players availible. Scott Skiles and his defensive mindset and Hammond coming from Detroit, they're going after defensive minded tough players. He also said they wouldn't shy away from a guard like Bayless or Westbrook. What does that tell me? If they draft one of those guards, williams is on the block. That being said, here's my idea.

    Williams 8.3m-5yrs
    Mason 5.3m- 1yr

    for

    Battier 6.3m-3yrs
    Jackson 6m-1yr
    Head 1.7m-2yr

    Benefits both teams in terms of what they're looking for. The Bucks get a defensive minded guy in Battier and a expiring contract. Skiles like the Battier types to play with a Redd type and a softie like Yi who might also be on the move.

    The Rox get that 3rd guy at the pg that can also penetrate and score without the aid of tracy and yao. They also get a atheletic swing like Mason, who can allow the team to draft a young wing Donte Green , Batum, or CDR or sign a G. Green, Azibuke,Barnes,CJ Miles, or even Ricky Davis.

    I know the Battier lovers are about to come out, but I think its a realistic idea.
     
  11. YugoRocketsFan

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    Shane Battier for Bobby Simmons, 2nd round pick.
     
  12. flangehead1

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    No, 10000 times!!!
     
  13. flangehead1

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    IMHO, we can get better players with Battier. No Mason please.
     
  14. Yetti

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    I LIKE BATUM FROM FRANCE- GO ROCKETS :p
     
  15. leebigez

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    I think you're missing the point and the effectiveness on both sides. Just because the rox gave up #8 for shane, doesn't mean someone else will. Williams fill a need and a want. The Rox get younger, the 3rd scorer and a playmaking pg. Mason gives them a good bench guy that can allow the Rox to sign or draft one of those young wing players I meantioned above. Also Mason gives the team a expiring just like Jackson contract represents. If the younger wing plays well and the team feels good, they could keep or trade mason for depth or just to get the money off the books. He can slash, defend and is a god locker room guy. What is it not to like?
     
  16. durvasa

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    You lose a reliable three point shooter at the wing position, and gain a player there who can't shoot. That's something not to like. Losing two good, proven 3-point shooters in Battier and Head will hurt us in the regular season, in my view.

    And I think the priority for the Rockets is to improve their depth at the wings. Trading away Battier for Mason probably doesn't accomplish that.
     
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  17. leebigez

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    Duvasa- U said it right, regular season. Battier and Head has done nothing in the playoffs. What ur missing is the rox would be getting a pg that's 25, can shoot from 3 and mid range as well as penetrate. Mason is a quality slashing wing player and a expiring contract. If u want that guy, u could sign Ricky Davis who shot 40% from 3 without the benefit of playing with Tracy or Yao. U probably could get miami involved in a 3 way involving mason going to miami for a sign and trade with Davis. U can replace the regular season 3pters from Battier and Luther.
     
  18. trueroxfan

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    sry green at point? HA ... hellll nawww that dude's bball iq is already so low how can he play point?

    im fine with him as an athletic bench player at the 2, but never in my life would i put him at pg
     
  19. flangehead1

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    I'd do Bob + Brooks + #25 for Mo Williams. Not sure about whether MIL will accept it?
     
  20. W22_STREAK

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    We have Battier mainly for his defense. Although it was a huge mistake to trade Rudy Gay for so little in just Battier, his three pointers are solid but he is on the team for his defence and the 3 pointers are just a bonus.
     

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