Totally agree. When we propose a proposal, we need to think from the other side, why should the other team would do this? Look at boards of other teams, most of teams desperately want Calderon, Miller, Artest, Maggette etc. And a lot of teams have more attractive trade baits: Suns have Barbosa, Mavericks have Josh Howard, Utah have Kirilenko, not to mention these lottery teams having tons of young talent and lottery picks. IMHO, we either gamble with our only attractive asset: jackson(expiring), battier, scola, landry (forget about alston, francis, novak, head, hayes, brooks, 1st pick). We may lose two of (battier, scola and landry) for a legit 3-star, and hope we can be another Boston. Or we get players under radar (as listed in previous post), and hope Yao and T-mac stay healthy.
Actually, I can Portland trading the #13 for Battier. Also, I could see a Bobby Jackson + Luther Head + 25th for Etan Thomas, 18th
No way I'd give up Battier to get a mere 13th pick. and another big no to giving up our most attractive trading chip- Bobby Jacksons contract for Etan Thomas... btw lol whats that "I can Portland trading..."? see?
Good thread! I really like Thabo Sefalosha, Hermann, and if we can resign Gerarld Green and move up into the draft and get a legit 6'10" or 6'11" big, say a Jason Thompson. We will be in the mix next year.
Kurt Thomas, Michael Finely are both free agents. I wonder if we should try to sign Michael Finely for vet minimum?
I'm sure he'd choose the Spurs over us if the same offer is presented by both teams. Somehow I feel he is a bit old...but if we can sign him for veteran's minimum that would be great. I still feel he will stay with the Spurs next season
I really like what you have said here. Out of the players you've listed: Randy Foye: I reckon this guy is a perfect fit for the Rockets! These are his stats: Height: 6'4'' Three point percentage: .412 Freethrow percentage: .815 Rebounds 3.3 What I think is one of our PG's main responsibilities is to score when T-Mac and Yao are under constant pressure and sink all open shots: his .429 three point percentage ensures that he will sink a great percentage of three pointers, and of course his size is really good for a PG. His rebounding is pretty decent of a PG also. I'm pretty sure he will be a great fit for us, and is going to have his breakout season in the very near future. This guy is only 24 years old! The potential is limitless...His 3pt% is pretty damn similar to Jose Calderons! And look how much Calderon is chased after! I agree with you that he will be a realistic target for us if we are able to present a decent offer. Jaric, McCants, Telfair, any PG they draft, provide plenty of options for the Wolves, so they don't depend so much on Foye. Looking at their roster they barely have any PFs at all... I'd recommend: S&T Landry 1st round pick Chuck Hayes for Foye 2nd rounder I think the salaries match well. On Morris Almond--I believe the Rockets were looking to draft him, until when Jazz was drafting right before us and grabbed him. I'd love to have him as our backup SG, but since when did we do a trade with Jazz? We're like soulsworn enemies, so what are the chances of working together? By the way I really feel for Jazz rookies...even Deron Williams got little minutes...and the 23rd pick gets sent to the D-league for his whole rookie year... I'm not that interested in Desmond Mason...shooting is vital to our offense-lacking team...so the least our SF should be able to do is shoot open 3pointers. Some other players to note: Carlos Delfino...This guy is a decent backup SF...that was his job when he was in the Pistons, as well as in the Raptors. Interestingly I saw on the Raptors forum someone posting to say "get rid of Delfino by trading him to Houston for a second round pick". That'd be nice. Hes got some size, and after the Raptors spend all their cash on Calderon and Jamario Moon, he should be hard to get. I think hes a Restricted Free Agent. Ricky Davis...No place for him in Miami since Shawn Marion is there now...above .400 three point shooter, 14 ppg...pretty decent stats... Chuck him our MLE. Although I DO prefer Ron Artest... Ramunas Siskauskas...He earns about 3 mil USD per year as a star in Europe. Any spare MLE we have should be spent on signing this guy. Pretty sure he'd take a paycut to make his mark in the NBA at the age of 30. HE CAN SHOOT! Juan Carlos Navarro...I know I favour 3pt sharpshooters...can't help it. And he can shoot pretty good, sinking 8 from 9 earlier this season. Now his best friend Gasol is gone he probably would be too...
battier needs to come from the bench if we keep rafer as starting pg or either used in a trade. richard jefferson or vince would be great to pry away if we could with battier and an expiring maybe. only way you keep battier in starting lineup is by bringing in a braon davis or gilbert which i think are very long shots. bring in vince is probaly going to be the easiest being that NJ wants to move his contract and if you do this find some way to package some picks and expirings for mike miller to allow him to come off the bench (memphis will come off this high price for him soon). rafer, vince,miller tracy scola yao this would be your core after that do what boston did and just fill in around as teams use and run out of money for FA. that is how they ended up with House and Posey. Players that i think will fall as for as FA's go ricky davis and bonzi wells come to mind
Why not also get Chris Mihm for backup center? He is exactly the type of high post player that would fit on a Rick Adelman team. DD
You're completely right. I was thinking along these same lines last night but isn't it sad that these cast offs from different teams could easily be in our rotation.
Not really, it kind means that our special system requires certain types of players that don't necessarily have all the talent and ability in the world, they just possess some of those special qualities we're looking for. Plus Mihm isn't that bad. He'd still be starting at C in the playoffs if they didn't manage to steal Gasol. And starting C for a championship team is nothing to sniff at. Can we sign him for veterans minimum or thereabouts? So he doesn't take up MLE space for us to pursue other borderline stars.
Your logic doesn't quite flow together. No Gasol = No Championship Team = Mihm starting C for a playoff team, nothing more. Sniff away!
Well I meant like a contender...The Lakers were always a pretty good team with Kobe...perhaps they were never going to win the WC but they would be like a second round regular... Anyways that was far from my point--my point was to sign Mihm. Is a starting C for a high playoff team not good enough for you? or would you only accept a starting C from the championship team for your likings?
I don't really get your fascination with a "starting C". We have this guy, Yao - he's pretty good. If he gets hurt, Mihm isn't going to lead us to the promise land, so it's a moot point on who backs him up. I'll be really pissed if we waste a 1st round pick on a C. We have much bigger holes than "who backs up Yao?!?"
what I meant was for us to have a backup centre to Yao. Yao is the franchise player, well as we can see when he get hurt we have close to no chance of advancing past the 1st round. The idea is to have Yao not get hurt. So to greatly improve the chances a injury-free Yao Ming, we need him to play less minutes. But Mutombo is getting older by the day and probably could handle maybe 10 min per game? That leaves Yao to play around 40 min per game, which is obviously crazy if he was to do that in the regular season every game. There is no facsination with whatever "starting C" we may have been discussing about. I was just trying to say that Mihm is stuck on LA's bench for like ever with Bynum and Gasol, so we should try to sign him, and get him to play perhaps around 15-20 min per game. Add that with Deke's minutes, Yao should only have to play about half of the game.(around 25 minutes). And Mihn is actually a legit C, who could actually be starting for a team lacking a C. In other words having him to play our backup C is pretty damn good in my view. I dont care who we draft as long as we draft the best player available when it comes to our pick. We'll probably be trading him anyways either as soon as hes picked or before the trade deadline. Rookies can't really help us that much next season on-court. just look at the Spurs and the Celtics, whose rookies were doing nowhere near as much as our rookies were doing this season. So its better to trade the pick for another scoring option. I would be glad if we can take Robin Lopez or Speights or Hibbert at 25. Big men are worth it on the market...
