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The Summertime "Random Trade Idea" Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, May 5, 2008.

  1. withmustard

    withmustard Member

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    what are you talking back, the 25th pick never contributes their rookie year. Are you forgetting about Scolandry. MOrey has a problem now because the 31st pick contributed too much.
     
  2. W22_STREAK

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    what problem? whatever problem you're talking about that Morey may be facing is certainly a pleasant problem all GMs would love to face.

    there is no such thing as:"contributing too much". what are you talking about...don't you want good players? thats the whole point of the draft
     
  3. batkins

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    Uh, then the salaries won't work and why would the Nets do that? Battier and a expiring contract is one thing, but Battier and a scrub will not work.
     
  4. RedRowdy111

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    Jason Richardson

    for

    Bobby Jackson
    Shane Battier
     
  5. saleem

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    The Bobcats are a weak ball club what interest would they have in this proposed trade? Even adding the 25th pick won't be enough IMO.
     
  6. flangehead1

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    A realistic offseason plan

    (1) draft at #25 for a center or a 2-3 backup, don't expect immediate impact, just develop him (together with brooks and landry)

    (2) Split MLE for landry and bonzi wells, wells's stock are really low right now, but I think he is still servicable, sign him for cheap, 2-3 years start from $3M

    (3) trade novak/harris/head/hayes for future picks if possible

    Our lineup actually is not that bad
    Yao/Deke
    Scola/Landry/Hayes
    Battier/Bonzi
    T-Mac/Head
    Alston/Francis/Brooks/Jackson

    Then in mid-season, trade Jackson and one player for an unhappy star or a sharp shooter, maybe artest, jefferson etc as many people mentioned. Heck, we may even land Nash :)

    Look at our roster, I feel really really sad, none of our role players can draw serious interested from other teams, I just hope Morey has some magic to really get the offseason interesting.
     
  7. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Oh my god. There is somebody out there who wants Bonzi back! :eek:
     
  8. pmac

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    It is kinda odd. I thought he was a good value for 2-3M but he wasn't a good fit for our team. We need more shooters. I thought he played better with the Hornets because he could they usually had other shooters on the court with him. I wouldn't be mad if we got him back but he's not really what we should be looking for.
     
  9. davestrate

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    As crazy as this may sound, i have always wanted an explosive offensive minded player like J.R. Smith. I believe a player like TMAC can have the positive impact that he needs to develop into the franchise player that he is capable of becoming. Another prospect may be Thabo Sefolosha although i highly doubt the Bulls would give up such a talent without losing Luther Head along with Carl Landry. I will say this tho.........the ultimate price this summer would be Gilbert Arenas even if it means releasing everyone except Yao and Mac. It's obvious teams with a legitimate chance at the title rely on not only two but three superstars (ex: Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Pistons, Suns etc) so i believe it's our turn to go after someone huge like Arenas, of course this is all wishful thinking.
     
  10. davestrate

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    Aside from my previous wishes I would like to add that a player like Shawn Marion would also suffice our needs. Rebounding, steals, shot percentages, and straight up athleticism. He, Childress, Sefolosha, JR Smith would be perfect fits for the rockets and especially under Rick Adelman's system. And not to mention Gilbert Arenas!
     
  11. davestrate

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    How about instead of Kobe we get someone like Gilbert Arenas, Kobe will never leave the lakers especially now that he's happy with two other superstars to back him up......now gilbert, that's another story....he may be looking out and if we dont snatch him someone like the heat probably will give it a shot putting them into a legitimate contender with Wade, Arenas and Marion.
     
  12. W22_STREAK

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    we don't have anywhere near the cap space to get gilbert arenas...

    hinrich sounds a lot more likely...
     
  13. hooroo

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    This from a Rocket Guy article but I've abridged it so it's only direct quotes from Sam Hinkie:
     
  14. saleem

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    The only way we can get to the lower lottery or mid-teens without giving up Yao or Tracy is by offering Luis Scola IMO.He is crafty and has been voted the 3rd best rookie of the season. I didn't include Landry since he is an RFA but he can help move up too,perhaps not as far as Luis due to his injured knee. Brooks,Battier and the expiring picks or a future 1st rounder won't be enough to get the job done.
    I hope management won't make such a mistake.
     
  15. DcProWLer277

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    I know their are a few players were gonna look to target but I just realized we have over 14 million in expiring contracts next season. WOW!!

    Jackson 6m
    Francis 2.7m
    Butler 2.5m
    Reed 1.5m
    Head 1.9m
     
  16. Sooner423

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    The Rockets can't trade Butler or Reed, because they have been released. However, they're still responsible for the contracts.
     
  17. DcProWLer277

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    I thought it was too good to be true... :(
     
  18. flangehead1

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    That's why I call my plan realistic, the truth is we cannot get any big names without digging another hole (big!) in our roster, which means we pack shane+scola for another player. call me pessimistic, I want to be wrong.
     
  19. t-mac4bigmac

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    A lot of these trade scenarios are too unrealistic. We need to target players that their teams are actually willing to trade away. There are players out there that got limited playing time last season and got stuck behind other players in the rotation, but potentially can still be quality players:

    Bostjan Nachbar (22.1 mpg last season): He's expendable with Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson taking the wing positions. I see this guy as a poor-man's Mike Miller. He can shoot, run the floor, and would improve our athleticism.

    Desmond Mason (28.8 mpg, 59 games): Bobby Simmons, Michael Redd, and Charlie Villanueva also play his position. He's athletic, good defender, and a good rebounder. He can't shoot that well, but neither could Bonzi Wells and he found a role on our team.

    Walter Hermann (8.3 mpg, 45 games): He's behind Prince, Jarvis Hayes, and Arron Afflalo in the depth charts. He could be a longer, taller version of Ginobili. He has good court sense and knows how to score.

    Kyle Lowry (25.5 mpg): He shares the point guard position with Conley, Navarro, and Crittenton. He's a strong, tough player who can get to the basket and play good defense. He plays bigger than his size suggests.

    Randy Foye (39 games): He splits playing time with Jaric, McCants, Brewer, and if they draft OJ Mayo, Foye is expendable. This guy is due to have a breakout season. Before he was drafted, he was compared to Dwyane Wade.

    Morris Almond (4.3 mpg, 9 games): Was behind Brewer, Korver, and then CJ Miles. This was the guy who scored 50 points in a D-League game, which isn't saying much, but there no doubting his shooting and scoring ability. He could be a poor man's version of Michael Redd.

    Here are some other players that may also have been mentioned before:
    Carlos Arroyo
    Thabo Sefalosha
    Josh Childress
    Marquis Daniels
    Ronald Murray
    Andres Nocioni
    Rodney Carney
    Rashad McCants
    Ryan Gomes
    Damien Wilkins
    Michael Pietrus
    John Salmons

    Most of these players averaged less than 25 minutes a game last year. That's an indicator that these players are possibly open to be traded. Some these players also have shown they can play and put up solid numbers in previous seasons. Feel free to add to add to my list.
     
  20. rterry

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    Good post. I'm not sure all are available. McCants had a break out year and won't be, imo. The 2 most appealing to me would be Lowry who could start or backup for us and Hermann who could be that backup to McGrady we so desperately need. These are all much more reasonable acquistions than the nonsense of Calderon, Ellis, or Miller that is being bantered around on the board.
     

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