Sources: Morey wanted Dragic over Lin, Les forced him to get Lin.

Funny how the league is always a day late and a dollar short

 

If morey didn't want dragic then why did he make him an offer?


I'm sorry but you make decisions based on the information at the time, and it was absolutely the correct decision to offer a 3 year contract and not a 3 yr plus player option.

Nobody knew how good dragic would turn out, and nobody knew we'd land harden and Howard.

Some of you playing this rediculous bashing game AFTER THE FACT need to get a grip.

 

Last time I checked CF required a LINK be included before posting this type of stuff....

 

He's an insider with a proven track record.

 

I remember saying exactly this, and although I got some support, I also got hounded for making this assumption because I didn't have sources. Saying that I should be banned. Lol.

To me, it was just beyond common sense. It was such a bad decision, that it couldn't have been Morey's idea. I was disappointed from the jump that Les chose to hinder success for financial gain. To me, that was a big slap to the fans. Wanted to give Lin a shot, but it was apparent almost immediately he was very overpaid.

Just don't do it again Les. We're not a bunch if dummies. Live and learn brotha.

 

Wow look at all these genius. Told you so comments.
Dragic was 11ppg 6year player you clowns.
jeremy lin would be hailed a hero if his game 3 layup went in.
jeremy lin would be hailed a hero for the rebound had mchale called a timeout before lin move.
Too bad ***** happens.

 

1. Lin was not on the table when Dragic negotiation was going on, IIRC.

2. Assuming the scenario above is true, IT DOES not imply Lin was pat of Morey's remorse in the sense that it was a choice between Lin and Dragic.

Your inside info maybe correct but your conclusion could be wrong.

 

insider? the timing is so suspicious...let me feel somebody tried hard to deflect the criticism for Morey. still can be an insider who wants to do this.

 

You know it's hard out there for GM's, when they tryin to get this money for tha rent
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Ummm.... Morey DID want Dragic, he just wanted him on a contract that made him a good trade asset if he needed to move him in the case of needing to trade for a star player. I thought that to be pretty clear.

Yep. That's pretty much what I said. The contract Morey wanted to give Dragic and then Lin after Dragic didn't sign was a 3 year deal with a team option on the 4th year.

Dragic didn't take the offer, and Morey didn't bump up the offer to match what Phoenix was offering. Lin was going to have that contract matched by the Knicks, so (we dont know this for a fact but...) Les and/or McHale most likely pushed Morey to go back and offer more than he wanted to, but given the Arenas rule, Morey was able to structure the contract in a unique way to keep the contract length shorter while bumping up the offer. Everyone won at the time (or so we thought).... but not really now.

Just imagine if we didn't have a GM with the smarts to know how to structure a contract in a way to get him the money in 3 years? We'd have Lin guaranteed in Houston possibly for another 2 seasons instead of 1.

Yep. Its water under the bridge, and its obvious that alot of folks complaining that there was a Dragic vs. Lin choice obviously weren't following the team back then to know how things played out in real time. These was not an either or decision, but what is obvious is -

-Morey wanted Dragic
-Morey wanted Lin.
-Morey didn't want to give a player option and a 4 year contract to anyone that wasn't a superstar
-Morey had some pressure to go back and restructure & increase Lin's contract

Do we really need to keep dwelling on this? I'm sure Morey is kicking himself in the foot, as is Les, but it is what it is. They had every reason at the time to make the decisions they made, and I probably would have done the same myself.

 

Yeah I know, it was moreso directed at the posters who felt that Morey wasn't serious about re-signing Dragic and was always hell bent on some Lin crusade after the backlash for cutting him.

He made him an offer, Dragic didn't like it, Morey wanted to maintain flexibility to chase a star in 2015 and he gave a juiced up contract to Lin that was still 3 years, in order to make sure the Knicks didn't match.

I don't think a lot of posters grasp the gravity of how bad a player option can be, and at the time with no bonafide 'superstars' on the roster and forever dancing on mediocrity treadmill, he saw enough of Lin going crazy in NYK to reason we weren't losing out on THAT much swapping Lin/Dragon (where were we going anyway? lottery?) and still kept some buzz with Lin and most importantly held flexibility for the future.

It's the same reason I was non-plussed when he cut Lin the first time. This game isn't played with a crystal ball

 

Lol cyberx is morey himself

 

So all along the conventional thought was Morey went after Lin after he lost out on Dragic (didn't want 4th year guarantee). Now, insider is saying Morey wanted to offer Dragic the 4th year, but Les vetoed that and forced him to go after Lin?

I don't doubt cyberx as a source, but after the last two "insider info" and its timing, this is more believable to me.... cyberx is getting information from a source that is not directly in the knowing, instead from someone involved in office chit chat or 2nd, 3rd, whatever hand information. And I think we all know what can happen when everyone is mad/frustrated about something and start chatting up...

 

I think that's up for interpretation, but this is the first we have heard of that. Everything Morey has said and done otherwise points to the opposite, and we all know-

A. Player options for non-superstar contracts usually is bad for trade assets
B. Morey WANTED a superstar player to trade for, so trade assets = good for trades.

So believe what you want.

A behind closed doors running joke about losing Dragic to sign Lin is completely plausible. Coming out and saying something publicly would obviously be in bad taste.

Maybe Cyberx heard about this running jab and maybe he didn't, but its completely plausible that they are kicking themselves in the foot for it even though they can't really blame themselves too much since they simply didn't know how the next two years would unfold.

It is what it is.

 

Yes, we don't know. I can see that Morey might be willing to give Dragic what he wants. I think Morey did know that Dragic can be very good and so he weighted on that decision but decided against it (or was forced). I can accept that possibility.

I personally thought Dragic would be pretty elite the first time I saw him playing as backup PG against the Spurs in the playoff. His 1st year and he already had that aggressive, no fear, drive to the basket to get points altitude. Love his game.

I had a similar feeling with Lin game (love that fearless drive to the game) but he's been a big disappointment (yet, i still said he has the tools to be very good unlike so many that think he doesn't even belong).

 

You need a brisk walk. Don't forget your lin snuggie