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Sengun simply not good enough

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Oct 11, 2022.

  1. Ankara1923

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    Hope Stone find a way to swap Sengun with Robert Williams of Celtics. Otherwise Brooklyn will be a good destination for Alpi. He should play in East Coast. Historically Turkish players become more succesfull in the east rather than west except Memo Okur.

    Robert Williams will be a very good fit for Rockets as Celtics will be a dream move for Alpi. Can you imagine Marcus, Derrick White,Jaylen feeding Sengun when he plays next to Tatum,Griffin,Horford and Galinari.What a team.

    If he stays in Houston we may witness Omer Asik v.2. Hopeful start,bad ending.
     
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  2. DatRocketFan

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    Spoken like a fan of sengun. Pretentious fk.

    Anyways like what most of the folks and Me have said, sengun probably will be better utilized from the bench. Kpj can't run a half court offense due to his weakness as a pg. Sengun might b better suited running the second unit with his playmaking skills if him as a starting center isn't working
     
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    If they have to resort to that, it's on Silas and KPJ. KPJ should pass Sengun the damn ball.
     
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    I think rather then forcing kpj to do something he is sht at, sengun is better utilized off the bench if his defensive skills as a center is lacking. He can run the offense as the second unit.

    We need an anchor at center, hopefully sengun will rise up to the occasion. It kinda sucks that sengun offensive skill isn't being properly utilized, but it is what it is
     
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    Maybe short term, this is the better solution, but if KPJ cannot or does not want to get Sengun the ball, when Sengun having the ball, other than Jalen or Jabari shooting or Jalen attacking the basket is our best way to use a possession - then KPJ is the problem, not Sengun.
     
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    It reads like an opinion piece by Feigen but I'm seeing reactions as news
     
  7. Dobbizzle

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    Genuinely sounds like you don't like the Rockets and just want Sengun traded so you can be a Celtics fan now they're contenders. You realise this is a Rockets fan page right?
     
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  8. DatRocketFan

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    Well yea. But I been c9nvinced that if kpj can upped his offense potential, that can compensate his weakness or his inability to use sengun post game.

    Folks aren't happy with sengun's defense at center or his foul rate. It remains to b seen how he will fare as a starter. Hopefully stamina isn't an issue like last season
     
  9. maj21

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    Sengun fans only care about him and his needs, not the team. The rockets looked good this preseason and they’re unhappy bc they want it to be the Sengun show. They care about him, not the rockets
     
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  10. snowconeman22

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    With our athleticism between smith , Tate , kpj , green , tari etc ... We have a very strong defensive pairing with sengun .

    it remains to be seen how effective we can be on offense with him . He’s only in his second year and to break an established high scoring style that is space and pace ..Al-P will have to really break out .

    Silas is right we need to use him on the roll .

    he should be tested and work at setting screen . He’s big and strong. I bet he can open up tons of space for our shooters , or guys attacking the rim depending on coverage .

    the next step is for him to work on his roll game and in between game , passing etc .

    he’s not always going to get the ball in the post . No one does . DMO had to learn how to play in the PnR . So did Jokic and embiid .

    everyone should touch it . Tate moves the ball quickly . As does sengun . With smith at the 4 and green and kpj it’s up to those guys to be decisive and not keep the ball sticky ;)

    we can turn it over . That’s acceptable for a young team . We aren’t aiming to be contenders yet . Is alperen 20 yet ?
     
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  11. JW86

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    So Sengun hasn’t even started yet and Rockets start to have this kind of article out there. What we feared with the Lucas quotes has come through: Rockets won’t try to make it work w/ Sengun by having him be a strong offense initiator. Man I miss Adelman and competent coaching.
     
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    Alp is the best screener on the team by far. He does need to be able to do more to score than just post ups and face ups.
    But……I’ve said this since last year, our guards are terrible at passing out of the pick and roll or any screens. You have to reward the big guys doing the dirty work.
    It’s part of the reason I’m not a fan of 5 out, dribble drive and kick out, with no off ball movement or passing is just too predictable and way too guard oriented. There has to be some diversity to our offense. Make things easier for everyone.
     
  13. maj21

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    Wtf did Adelman win here lol
     
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    The high shot percentage of our starter makes Alperun more effective as a playmaker. It isn't Alperun that must move to the bench it's the non shooters. He creates space for others. That is winning basketball. I don't see him as bench player unless we're not trying to win. Only way he's goes to the bench is if we had a more dynamic playmaker like a Harden or Luka
     
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    Yeah it definitely is an opinion piece, but Feigen is also known to be a mouthpiece for the rockets front office. He's close with them and gets a lot of his info directly from them. So there's a chance this is just his opinion, but there's also a chance this is based on some kind of inside info, or something like that.
     
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  16. DatRocketFan

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    who is the non shooters? some Folks are arguing that Sengun aint ready or ever ready to b the defensive anchor at center.
     
  17. Ankara1923

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    If Houston does not tank intentionally there is no chance Alpi is not starting- even Lucas can't prevent.

    Alpi's assist numbers dived last year when he realized Josh Christopher&co were not sharing the ball with him. Alpi did not assist to Josh and Christopher suddenly became irrelevant.He assisted to D.J.Augustine, KMJ and Dennis (after trade) but no JC. Similar thing might occur this year if back-court players don't share the ball with him. Less screening, tired back-court, lower percentage.

    There is a logic for KPJ situation, contract year, to be shine.Better Alpi, better JGreen, Bari&Tari around, KPJ might not get near max but there is no logic for JGreen not to share the ball with Sengun. It is a mandatory 4 more years to play together,no need for crack.

    At the end Silas' future is connected to Alpi's success. Ignore Alpi, tanking mode, no contract for younger P.Silas.

    When Rockets lost to Miami,Lucas and KPJ's mouths were as open as Wembley Stadium as if they were celebrating a world championship. Bam Adebayo&co were jumping like charlatans and Lucas and KPJ were also very happy, nearly delirious. Unbelievable..

    It is a game Lucas and KPJ vs Stone and Alpi. Wondering the result. Will be a long 82 games.
     
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  18. FLAGRANT1

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    Our defensive anchor is Jabari
    The non shooter is Tate til he shows otherwise
     
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  19. DatRocketFan

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    Nah you are writing fantasies. I don't think that KPJ has anything against Sengun, kpj just lacks the court vision and the playmaking creativity to properly utilize Sengun on offense.
     
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  20. Dobbizzle

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    Lol this is just pure delusion. Sengun has potential, but you're making him out to be the be all and end all of the team and he's not. And I say this as somebody who had Sengun as his favourite Rocket last year, he's just not as important to the team right now as you think he is. You're thinking of Jalen Green, the ACTUAL person who's showed star potential on the roster so far. Nobody else has remotely. I'd love for Sengun to blow up and be a top player, if he doesn't though he can go in the trash and we'll get someone better for the Rockets. It's really that simple.
     
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