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Sengun simply not good enough

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Oct 11, 2022.

  1. Ankara1923

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    I mentioned here before after watching World Cup Qualifiers and Eurobasket that Alpi's best usage is switching 4/5. Use him as 5 at offense and 4 at defense (Jabari is a great fit for that switch), Alpi is 2.09 m (6'10"1/4) at the moment and hopefully grow to 2.11m(6'11")in a year or 2, lacking 2" from modern C but his BBall IQ much much higher than his opponents to cover that 2 inches.

    Horford is a hard studying decent guy in your uni class, Alpi is the genius one. You employ Horford and he serves you something better than average, you employ Alpi and adjust the system for him little bit, he gives you a dynasty.

    I am not sure how long Rockets can keep him? Big boys will force Houston to part with Alpi, hopefully win-win situation. Houston can't keep him in long term. My team Rockets is not that level yet (mentally-organizationally). There are some good signs but not there yet.
     
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    He didn't start becoming the Horford we know now until his 3rd season.
     
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    Yes height is an important aspect to a center, but it's not the end all. Sengun is a very highly intellectual bb player. He is extremely savvy, Americans are sooooo enamored with raw physicality and brute force that they discount Sengun since he isn't their ideal center. U figured folks who watch hakeem dancing on opposing center would b intrigued about a center with a brain, but nahhhh he's too short.

    I think Sengun will b fine, he might not b the ideal Starting Center, due to the mentality of the NBA coaches, but he will b able to have a lengthy career if folks properly utilize him.
    Having someone like KPJ as our point guard who lacks court vision, is just setting Sengun up to fail. I think it's reasonable that he might b better coming off the bench where the offense can b run through him if he is that much of a "liability at the starting center position".
     
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    Why has Sengun's height been updated on the google machine to 6'11 but Jalen still remains at 6'4. I need 6'8 for Jalen with that hair.
     
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    Jalen looks like he’s grown, legit 6’6. He looks taller than KPJ when they are next to each other
     
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    I think Sengun is better suited as a stretch 4. He's not physical or strong enough as a 5. He has the playmaking ability and can shoot both the 3 and the post-up fadeaway jumper. He struggles to pull down rebounds or guard big men inside the paint.

    I think our ideal starting lineup where Sengun can thrive is Green, KPJ, Smith, Sengun, and insert some other 7-foot rim protector center. IMO, Stone's priority should be on finding that true center to improve our starting lineup either through free agency, trade, or next year's draft. We need one desperately.
     
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    But seriously how the **** you gonna talk about defense then say you miss Christian Wood??
     
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    I actually agree with this, he does need to develop a more consistent shot for it to happen.
    My dream scenario is us getting Wemby and playing Alp at the 4 and Jabari at the 3. With Tari being main back up
     
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    Defensively, Sengun might be better off at the 5. Almost everyone plays a "stretch 4" these days. How good is he guarding at the perimeter?
     
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    Hakeem came in the league as one of the most athletic centers ever, however he evolved into a passer and thinker of the game.

    I think Sengun is a good player but I do not think he can be great, especially in the NBA. Maybe in the Euro League but not the NBA and only because the NBA is different; fast pace, speed and length. There are and were many Euro players who are great but just did not make it in the NBA.

    People hate on KPJ and I do not get it. He's 22yrs old, he's going into his 2nd yr playing the PG position full-time, and so far this Pre-Season he is showing he meshes perfectly with JG.

    PEOPLE WANT TO SHOW PATIENCE FOR SENGUN BUT NOT KPJ. WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES ARE WE PLAYER FANS OR ROCKET FANS?
     
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    Sengoon was knocking 3s down.
     
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    That's why I was a proponent of keeping Wood. Wood was terrible guarding centers but I think Sengun is better at guarding 5s.

    Wood did a good job on the perimeter and we could've had Jabari as our 3 due to his body type right now. Some are saying we should play Jabari at the 5 in certain situations but I think since he's so slight of build, he needs to be on the perimeter .
     
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    Wtf r u r3ally projecting?
    Sengun is basically going to b in his first year as the starting center, he's even younger than kpj yet we already have folks like u already counting him out.

    Don't b a hypocrite asking to give patience for kpj and then bash on sengun over a fking preaseason game

    The fact that u have the nerve to question folks Fandom while pining for cwood of all folks makes me question your bb iq and your critcism of sengun.

    Cwood defense blows even more than sengun.
     
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  14. Ankara1923

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    Insularity is the biggest problem at the other side of the pond. They have some patterns (such as 3 bigs) and follow these imposed ideas as Biblical orders. Soon you will see the thread" Who are our 3 bigs".

    J.Allen, B.Adebayo,Celtics' C,.. are much shorter than Alpi but you never see anyone discussing their height. They adjust the team to get more from these so-called short Centers instead of worrying the height,fielding Mobley next to Allen, Horford to Robert, etc..Spo couldn't succeed this rotation last year and lost to well-adjusted Celts.So, the problem was not Bam is 6'9" but why Dedmond and Yurtseven were not better used

    Of course Alpi is an genuine starting C in NBA but you have to field another player next to him (Jabari at the moment). Allen fails without Mobley, Mobley lost ROY title because Allen was not there.Robert Williams survived by Horford and this year Blake Griffin and Danilo Galinari (in a way) will help to physicality. In Alpi's case we are talking Tate-KMJ at 4 if Jabari does not play. It is not fair. We witnessed Alpi-Garuba court last night, team knows that they have to bring some help to Alpi but how successful they will be is another question.

    The other two centers scored 1 point in a combined 31 minutes last night and people questioning whether Alpi should start or not? Funny.
     
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    J Allen is short?!! Haha okay
     
  16. Ankara1923

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    cmoak killed you thousand times and you still alive.Bravo.

    Now you think Allen is a 7 footer.You need professional help.
     
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    J allen is 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m)

    Vs sengun who folks are calling too short at 6 ft 11 in
     
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  18. maj21

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    C moak hasn’t killed anyone. He’s just a Sengun fan, nothing else. If you think Sengun is taller than Allen, you need help
     
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    I’m done here. It’s obviously a race thing with y’all with this garbage
     
  20. Ankara1923

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    It seems that you are a masochist but i have no sadistic feelings.It is better to stop communication with you not to belittle you anymore.

    good luck (you certainly need in life).
     
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