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Rumor: Alston arrested for PI and Assault (CONFIRMED)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mrdave543, Aug 5, 2007.

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  1. Deckard

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    Look at his moniker. He probably just rides the subway or hails a cab.
     
    #261 Deckard, Aug 7, 2007
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Don't you agree it could have become a DUI instead of the PI, so he might actually be in luck here?
     
    #262 AroundTheWorld, Aug 7, 2007
  3. Clutch

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    Not to make a joke here, but ... You mean it can go lower?

    When all you can currently get for Clyde Drexler's "top 5 point guard in the league" is Michael Doleac, that's a really, really bad sign. At this point, maybe people should take the Rocket red-colored glasses off and realize that as a starting point guard, Rafer really was one of the worst in the league (Great thread to go back and read. DallasThomas ... LOL http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=122013)

    I don't hate Rafer Alston. If I rated my experiences interviewing players, he'd be #1 or #2. He seems like a great guy.

    But you have to see the difference between good person and bad fit for your company. It was crystal clear by mid-to-late 2005-2006 that Rafer was a really bad offensive player... his three-point shooting was really ugly. The Rafer-Bogans backcourt was one of the worst Rockets pairings I've ever seen and it was stunning to see how fast our backcourt had crumbled in less than a season.

    The big mistake Skip fans made was assuming that Rafer, as a passer, was the "ideal fit" and that all these problems would disappear once all these weapons were laid out around him. It was a dumb, blatantly obvious mistake. The offense was always going to be halfcourt around Yao and under JVG. Tracy McGrady was always going to be the primary playmaker. The point guard was always going to be camping and hoisting from the three-point line.

    Like clockwork, Rafer's assists plummetted and his three-point attempts soared. His ineffectiveness penetrating is now legendary. He had games where he was great, but they were very, very rare.

    We screamed it over and over that at a minimum, the Rockets HAD to take minutes away from Rafer. They had to get someone who could hit the open shot, find the open man or take his man to the hoop. They never did it, and it burned them badly.

    You can say they had other problems -- like the four spot -- and I'd agree. But no weakness was more "fixable" than the PG spot, and not having a guy like Mike James (as Yao reportedly agreed) cost them big time in the Utah series. Kudos to Morey and the Rockets for not resting on a 52-win season and making big changes here this offseason, but they blew a golden opportunity last season. I get the feeling that seasons in which T-Mac and Yao are healthy by late April are going to be rare, and we squandered a key one in their primes by putting Rafer Alston in a critical position for 44-45 minutes a night.

    It sucks to <a href="http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1348/hard_look_rafer_alston/">learn the same lesson</a> a year later, but it's worth repeating: Rafer Alston's point guard skills make him a luxury as a backup and his poor marksmanship makes him a liability as a starter.

    The Rockets only hope of getting anything for him, in my opinion, is packaging Rafer with other assets, like Luther Head, Kirk Snyder, Bob Sura's expiring, a first round pick or even Shane Battier for a bigger salary player. The Rockets need to move out multiple contracts anyhow, so we'll see.
     
    #263 Clutch, Aug 7, 2007
  4. Clutch

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    I wasn't there, but my understanding is Rafer failed a field sobriety test:

    They handed him a basketball and he made the shot.
     
    #264 Clutch, Aug 7, 2007
  5. DaDakota

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    Awesome post Clutch, it amazes me that people automatically brand someone a hater if they think a certain player is not good for the Rockets.

    When we first got Rafer, I thought he might be a good fit, as I was not sure that the volatile James would work for a full season.

    I am still not sure about James for the duration, but I am dead sure that Rafer is not the answer at the point and it was one of the biggest reasons I wanted to get some other players some PT at that position.

    I think Morey knows this, and will be happy when the day comes that Rafer is no longer a Rocket.

    I like the guys personality, but his game is BLEH !

    Actually it was a teardrop, the one cop that was a Rockets fan had to be helped to the ambulance because he fainted, I think he was related to Sura.

    DD
     
    #265 DaDakota, Aug 7, 2007
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    Absolutely. He wasn't by himself though. However, there's no way to know if he would have driven or not. That would be completely guessing for me.
     
    #266 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
  7. KAS13

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    Come on now. There are a lot of Rafer haters on this board. There are also fans who don't like him because of the way he played. There's a huge difference between the two groups. That's just the truth
     
    #267 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
  8. steddinotayto

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    But doesn't the hate come from the way had he played? :confused: Unless you're talking about people just strictly hating the guy even when he's off the court.
     
    #268 steddinotayto, Aug 7, 2007
  9. bfunw

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    Now that's REALLY funny :)
    Oh wait, as ROX fans, that's no laughing -- "he rarely hits what he's aiming at." -- You make my day :)
     
    #269 bfunw, Aug 7, 2007
  10. KAS13

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    That's not really true though. I don't think the Heat have interest anymore now that they signed Smush. However, the Haslem deal (although it was a package of more then Rafer) was also being talked about. So, that's not really poor trade value to be honest.

    The real reason his value is so low at this point (and I'm not knocking Morey as I think he's done a great job with the team) is because we sat around why teams like the Heat and Clippers had a lot of interest and continued to shop him. Now the Heat signed Smush to go with Williams and the Clips signed Knight to go with Cassel. We should have jumped all over the Haslem deal before we let it die.

    You know I said all along that we should move him and get something while all these teams were looking for a pg and he had interest. Now, most of those teams got tired of waiting and filled their pg needs via FA.
     
    #270 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
  11. Pocket Rockets

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    i must have missed this, but where did it say he wasnt by himself?

    unless you were with him?
     
    #271 Pocket Rockets, Aug 7, 2007
  12. DaDakota

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    I don't think anyone on here hates him just to hate him....why would anyone feel that way?

    I would bet 99% of the people just don't like him as a Houston Rocket.....

    I just don't believe there are any true haters here, just Rocket fans......

    Now there are some RAFER fans, and I can respect their views, they are just wrong.

    :D

    DD
     
    #272 DaDakota, Aug 7, 2007
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    Youch!!! LMAO.
     
    #273 Red_Glare, Aug 7, 2007
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    Again, how do you know "he just never got touched so the words assault should have never been used." I could have said "he definitely got touched so the words assault should have been used" with equal credibility.

    By the way, how about that SPIT? That is not a touch, right?
     
    #274 bfunw, Aug 7, 2007
  15. KAS13

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    I will say it one more time in case you missed the comment earlier (not being rude). I'm not answering all those questions about how inside information was obtained. I'm giving you information on the situation. You can choose to believe it or not. That's up to you. I can respect both sides and it doesn't matter to me.
     
    #275 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
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    I've explained it twice now. Like I said, believe it or don't. I addressed the spit a while back as well. When the assualt charges are kicked by the judge then you will see that I was simply telling you what I was told from a source I consider very reliable
     
    #276 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
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    Done for now on this thread. I will come back to it when it is resolved in the courts. Hopefully everyone will who chose to comment.
     
    #277 KAS13, Aug 7, 2007
  18. Pocket Rockets

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    i never asked where you got the inside information (apparently thats where it was said he wasn't by himself) from.

    i just asked if it was reported or if you were with him.
     
    #278 Pocket Rockets, Aug 7, 2007
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    Then he's lucky the Parking Attendent didn't pound him into the ground!
     
    #279 BEXCELANT, Aug 7, 2007
  20. bfunw

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    I'm giving you some inside information: (warning: I MAKE IT UP.)
    The authority seems to be able to prove Rafer is guilty, but somebody from top intervened for ROX benefit. So don't be surprised that if they drop some or all charges.

    I will say it only one time here. I'm not answering all those questions about how inside information was obtained. I'm giving you information on the situation. You can choose to believe it or not. That's up to you. I can respect both sides and it doesn't matter to me.

    (warning: I MAKE IT UP.)
     
    #280 bfunw, Aug 7, 2007
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