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Rafer Alston vs. NBA starting point guards

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    <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr><td bgcolor=#999999><table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=1 border=0><tr bgcolor=#cc0033><td><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>Player</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>Team</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>G</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>GS</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>MIN/G</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>REB/40</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>STL/40</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>AST/G</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>A/40</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>A/TO</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font face=arial size=1 color=#ffffff>FGA/G</font></b></td><td align=right><b><font 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    I keep hearing people make claims about Rafer, good and bad, based on other point guards in the league ... so here are their numbers as of today (if I missed anyone, please let me know). For a few teams that primarily played their backup (like ATL) or started two (NYK), I included two. Rafer ranks:

    17th/33 in rebounds per 40 minutes
    14th/33 in steals per 40 minutes
    28th/33 in assists per 40 minutes (ahead of only Chucky Atkins, Jason Terry, Tyronn Lue, Gary Payton and Smush Parker)
    19th/33 in assist-turnover ratio
    29th/33 in FT%
    29th/33 in FG%
    31st/33 in 2-point FG% (ahead of only Jason Williams and Speedy Claxton)
    12th/33 in 3-point FG% yet 2nd/33 in 3-point attempts per game (trailing only Gilbert Arenas)

    Only Mike Bibby is playing more than 25 minutes a night and shooting worse overall from the field than Rafer, and Bibby is having a career low year due to <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/88413.html">wrist and thumb injuries</a>. Unfortunately for Rafer, these numbers are par for his career.

    But, the good news is when they say 'Rafer is the worst shooting starting point guard in the league', make sure to tell them, "Not quite" (but damn he's close).
     
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    I was told the Assists/Turnover # is quite important for a PG. Yes, it shows here those elite PGs do have high A/TO. And Rafer, is really crappy.
     
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    He wasnt this bad last year of what i remember. I think with Tmac saying he is a playmaker and all this season, Rafer's numbers have taken a hit. Still he is playing like ****.
     
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    I don't like this guy either. We need a point guard more than anything. Man, if we had an elite pg, we'd be totally set.

    Can we get Bibby or The Baron?
     
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    The two threads together eastablish Rafer as the NBA's worst starting PG in the first 3 Qtrs
     
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    Great analysis!
    I guess Rafer is a middle to bottom PG. I bet it is the same salary-wise. So you do get what you pay for....
     
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    god clutch, you didn't think there was enough gas already on the fire? :D

    ok, ok, I got your point. The boy sucks at basketball and we don't have Mike Jones (who?).

    So do something about it, call Morey, pull your connections and get us someone who can run the point. Otherwise, much like the Rashard debacle, you're just beating a dead horse.
     
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    please don't hit the reply to clutch's post or my fingers will hurt from scrolling down waaayyy too much....
    btw, we don't need another shoot first pg...we need a pass first that can shoot good off the double teams
     
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    shouldn't we be looking at eFG%? Rafer has an eFG% of 47.8%. Yao's is 52.1%, T-Mac 45.9%, Battier 56.7%, Head 58.7%, V-Span 35.6%, Lucas 47.4%
     
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    Further evidence why I support keeping Head in the starting lineup at "point guard" when TMAC is back (with Tracy being the primary ball handler/play maker).

    That way Rafer can play with Bonzi, Howard, and the rest of the 2nd team.
     
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    Maybe this is why we made such a push for Mike James this summer?!?

    But I still think that Rafer is currently the best point guard on the team right now. Head isn't a playmaker, and plays better when paired with another PG in either Rafer, VSpan, or JL3. VSpan isn't ready to start, and JL3 is a career backup or 3rd string point.

    So, we're stuck with Rafer. We'll have to make the most of it for now. Two of our starters wouldn't start on other teams, but that usually doesn't matter when TMac and Yao are both playing healthy. Unless this team gets lucky in the draft, we'll always have a below average or limited-skills player or two in the starting lineup due to the salary restrictions and having two superstars. You can only add so much with the MLE every year, and it's not like we've got pieces we can trade for another top 50 player.
     
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    I know this doesn't mean CRAP, but Rafer is on my Yahoo! fantasy league and he's ranked in the 20's - 30's as far as overall production in a league of 300+ ranked players. Not bad.
     
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    That's the point.
     
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    I would just like to add that Rafer may be the single worst defensive point guard in the league.
     
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    Rafer's floater/teardrop is fast becoming the ugliest and most ineffective shot in the history of NBA. He did get a few lucky bounces in the last game against Clippers, so hopefully the trend gets bucked. For all his much hyped Skip-to-My-Lou And1 stuff, the playground street-ball guru has never developed a knack for finishing strong at the basket, which is quite puzzling -- didn't he have to score 2 before he could "And1"?

    I know Clutch created this thread mainly to expose Rafer's poor shooting, but my major issue with Rafer has always been his play-making. I said before and I say this again, when you have one of the game's most offensively dominant low-post center on your team and you manage to average no more than 5 assists per game, there is something wrong with your PG skills.

    The mitigating factors for indictment on Rafer are that 1) he had to adjust his role depending on whether T-Mac was playing or not, and 2) since T-Mac has played most of the games so far this season, Rafer's assist number naturally dwindled. But still, if one has watched the Rockets games a lot, one can tell his entry pass to Yao is far from efficient. I am not completely giving up on Rafer yet, but I am not holding a lot hope either.
     
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    that's because he shoots so damn much, his fantasy value is only for his threes and his assists, which have taken a hit with T-Mac's playmaking. Besides, I own allen Iverson, muhahaha! Trumps Alston any day of the year.
     
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    great thread

    5 stars

    and hmmmm

    maybe we should trade rafer

    :D
     
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    1. Rafer Alston is also 5th out of 32 in terms of TO/40 minutes. Even though he doesn't have a lot of assists, there's no question he handles the ball a lot (bringing the ball up court, etc) and makes a good number of post-entry passes (many of them don't count as assists).

    He does take care of the ball fairly well when he has the ball.

    2. His overall TS% is .510, which is below league average for all players. However, I'm not sure how it ranks among the 32 listed here. His eFG% is .481 (accounting for 3s, but not FTs), which is 17/32.

    3. I don't see what's wrong with him shooting 6.8 treys a game at a 36.4% clip if most of them are shots within the offense and he's making a good number of them. These are good shots. The equivalent TS% on these shots (without accounting for FTs, which rarely happen anyhow) is a pretty decent 54.6%.

    4. His 2 pointers, however, are generally very inefficient shots so I'd complain if he shoots too many of those. Incidentally, he averages 5.68 2pt attempts per 40 minutes, which ranks him 32nd out of the 32 players.

    Maybe that's too many still. I'm gonna be a Rafer homer and spin it as showing he restrains the number of inefficient shots pretty well compared to others.


    5. Perhaps the more important inquiry is whether the Rockets are better with him on the floor or not. And most days, they are. Quite often the Rockets offense bog down with Luther at the PG, even if Yao and/or McGrady is still on the floor. This has shown in the +/- numbers this far this season. It may change, but I don't see it happening unless better PG arrives on the Roster.

    I think this shows Luther Head's deficiency more than it shows Rafer being a great PG. But Rafer's the best the team has right now and he's contributing. If there's a deal for a better player, by all means make it and limit Rafer's minutes. Otherwise, I see him as a fairly decent option for the team.
     

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