Spurs = Half Court Team but Still fairly Athletic/Quick They might have the quickest player in the league in Tony Parker
What a defeated attitude Justice has --we should be happy because the Rockets have gotten nothing out of 9 of the last 11 picks? That justifies trading Gay AND Swift for Battier? ...we were going to win 50 games next year without Battier - how does he vastly change things?
Yes, an excellent post, Rimmy. As Haven said, it's a bit more optimistic, but not really, with a closer read. You laid it out pretty well. I'm still insanely ticked off, but you said the slight chance of a possible short-term upside, dependent on other moves, better than I could have hoped to do. They better make a hell of a lot of moves besides this trade, significant moves. Shortsighted and short-term.
Yea i understand what battier brings to the rockets but boy did the rockets get rocked in this trade. They were soooooooo lucky to have gotten gay who was a potential #1 pick first of all. Also Gay is better than battier right from the start. The rockets need athleticism and scoring. They got just that in Rudy Gay. instead they pretty much lost all their athletism by giving away Gay AND Swift one of the msot athletic bigman in the league. This is why this deal makes no sense at all. WOW what a setback this is. Gay if not a star from day 1 will be a star very soon. Gay has the length and athleticism to be a great defensive player. He kind of reminds me of shawn marion he averaged nearly 2 steals and 2 blocks a game in college at sf u tell me thats not defense. To tell you the truth i dont know if i would do battier for jsut swift. i was hoping to see swift get the start at pf next season. This is extremely disapointing and i will remember this for a very long time.
No need in CRYING now....the deal is done...when you see Battier and Tmac (whoever) make Gay look ineffective when we play Memphis (if he gets good PT)...you guys are gonna be all up on batttier's jock....i was sad last night but its over now....Gay averaged barely 16 pts last yr and you guys think he is gonna be some overnight superstar....we didnt get the guy we wanted (Roy) so they did what was the safest move (over Gay, Brewer, Carney).....BOTTOM LINE ....its over and shane will be playing heavy minutes for us Would you rather have David Wesley playing those minutes? Cuz thats what we have seen since he has been here
A potential # 1 pick? Wasnt Griffin a potential #1 pick when Wizards drafted Kwame. Your talking about 2 stls and 2 blks....guess what buddy....shane has proven that in the NBA....not college....also just so you guys know....Battier ended up ranked 30 something in yahoo fantasy in a 9 category league....Who would I want on my fantasy team this yr....Battier over Gay and thats fa sho
Gay averaged 16 points on a friggin NCAA all-star team. Averaging 16 PPG on one of the most talented teams in the history college b-ball means a lot. Most of us aren't saying he'll be an overnight superstar. However, most of us believe giving him up and Swift for Shane "10/5" Battier is a rip off. Let's put it this way, if Gay has a career like Battier, people will say he was a moderate bust.
If you haven't heard, Griffin has "issues". Here's his latest: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=114591
that was battier's best year. if gay makes the first team all nba and then winds up being a 10/5 guy for the rest of his career people will say he's a moderate bust.
So points and rebounds are the only stat in your head.....there is a reason he was like 35th in fantasy....damn getta clue
well, there are more than stats and there are more than points and rebounds when you look at stats. however, you also can't discredit 10/5. and when it comes to fantasy there are tons of variables depending on the league. maybe you should get a clue. my reasons for not liking this trade go far beyond battier's stats.
THen what? Gay's extraordinary stats? How about the fact that he couldnt lead a team full of NBA players to a title. He does give a crap thats why and now all of a sudden he supposedly cares because he feels insulted that he slipped....we will see how many mins he gets neways this yr
-We gave up Swift and #8 Pick for Battier. We gave too much. -Swift was one of the few tradable assets we had -Gay is arguably the most talented player in the draft. Unless we don't make the playoffs we probably won't get to draft someone of his caliber level for a good time. -Gay has strong fundamentals and a consistent jump shot -Usually college super teams don't win the NCAA. What about the last year for the UNLV team that had 4 or 5 NBA Picks. Or the infamous Michigan team that also had 4 or 5 NBA Picks. -Do you think Gay is worse than Villanueva? Villanueva was the second best rookie this year and Gay is more athletic and has a more consistent jumper. By the way people questioned Villanueva's attitude far more than Gay's. -Has Uconn ever had a lotto pick that didn't pan out to be a good player? -In fact has Coach Calhoun ever had a lotto pick that did not contribute to their team in their rookie year? Charlie Villanueva Emeka Okafor Ben Gordon Caron Butler Rip Hamilton Ray Allen Donyell Marshall
this is what i meant sammy: -We gave up Swift and #8 Pick for Battier. We gave too much. -Swift was one of the few tradable assets we had -Gay is arguably the most talented player in the draft. Unless we don't make the playoffs we probably won't get to draft someone of his caliber level for a good time. -Gay has strong fundamentals and a consistent jump shot -Usually college super teams don't win the NCAA. What about the last year for the UNLV team that had 4 or 5 NBA Picks. Or the infamous Michigan team that also had 4 or 5 NBA Picks. -Do you think Gay is worse than Villanueva? Villanueva was the second best rookie this year and Gay is more athletic and has a more consistent jumper. By the way people questioned Villanueva's attitude far more than Gay's. -Has Uconn ever had a lotto pick that didn't pan out to be a good player? -In fact has Coach Calhoun ever had a lotto pick that did not contribute to their team in their rookie year? Charlie Villanueva Emeka Okafor Ben Gordon Caron Butler Rip Hamilton Ray Allen Donyell Marshall
