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Retracted: NYTimes admits yesterday's front page story was a lie

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. ROXRAN

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    ROFLMAO back at you...MUCH,MUCH, MORE experience than Obama, she is religious so what? just like many in the U.S., keep watching the drivebys as they grab transparent air on "anything" to attack Palin with....I love it...! WOOOOO!

    I am correct and this laughable response validates this,...and that she is a threat to you no doubt...FULL PANIC MODE LOL...

    Keep the fear! I'm loving it...Let the attacks continue...Let the attack on 22 years ago...100 years ago...Attack the babies....Bring it on! While you are at it, release her social security,...er, you already did that too! Wow...
     
    #21 ROXRAN, Sep 3, 2008
  2. Master Baiter

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    You think that it's cool for our VP and potential President to have ideas of letting states secede from the US?
     
    #22 Master Baiter, Sep 3, 2008
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What is funny is how people lay blame on things like "You already released her SS#" etc...when none of us did it, or condone it.

    Or that "You are attacking Palin"....uh, no, we are actually discussing things that the press has dug up because she was such an obscure choice.

    George W Bush has ruined the party I once thought was great under Reagan.....he has pandared to the lunatic fringe of the religious right.

    It is a budding McCarthyism all over again....

    Thank GOD that Obama is coming in to right the ship and swing this country back towards the middle.

    It is too bad we have a 2 party system, because there needs to be a party of common sense.

    Right now, the Dems are more closely aligned with that than the Republicans...

    One day the republicans will realize how far off track they have gotten, and get back to what made them great....

    Less government, less taxes, fiscally conservative, quality leadership.

    Because the last 8 years have been exactly the opposite of what being a republican is all about.

    DD
     
    #23 DaDakota, Sep 3, 2008
  4. halfbreed

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    This was a good post.
     
    #24 halfbreed, Sep 3, 2008
  5. SamFisher

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    Do you even know what the word "retraction" means?

    One wingnut now says she can't find her membership papers - fine and dandy.

    That doesn't mean that Palin didn't attend their meetings repeatedly (which she did) or that her husband wasn't a member (which he was)
     
    #25 SamFisher, Sep 3, 2008
  6. mc mark

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    To herself
     
    #26 mc mark, Sep 3, 2008
  7. texanskan

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    what the NYT lied? No, never.

    What a communist piece of crap, if your ever in NYC only pick up a Post and a Wall Street Journal
     
    #27 texanskan, Sep 3, 2008
  8. basso

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    this comment, which is spot on IMNSHO, could equally be applied to most partisan democrats here.
    [rquoter]A Shameful Week for the Press [Yuval Levin]

    I have always tended to think that conservative complaints about the media are a little exaggerated. There are occasionally obvious instances of bias and clear examples of a double standard, but most reporters don’t want to fall into those and some conservatives are surely too sensitive to them. But this week has changed my view. I have never seen, and I admit that I could never have imagined, such shameful, out-of-control, frenzied, angry, condescending, and pathetic journalistic malpractice. The ignorant assault on Palin’s accomplishments and experience, the breathless careless airing of deranged rumors about her private life, the staggeringly indecent mistreatment of her teenage daughter in a difficult time, the ill-informed piling on about the vetting process, the self-intensifying circle of tisking nodding heads utterly detached from a straightforward political event, have been amazing and eye-opening.

    The reigning emotion of it all has been anger—anger at being surprised, anger at being denied the spectacle of a Republican circular firing squad, anger that a conservative pro-life Republican could also be a woman and might represent the aspirations of other women, anger at being handed a person they did not know and who did not know them, anger that this upstart thinks she can ruin their coronation party. And the anger was fed by, and was indicative of, a profound elitism—a sense that we were dealing with some redneck moron from a state with no decent restaurants. The Republican candidate for president chose as his running mate a young, charismatic, female Republican governor—probably the most popular governor in the country—whose attitude and resume ring precisely of McCain’s kind of politics, and who has been on most people’s short-list since he won the nomination, and the press treats it as a symptom of some terrible and reckless madness.

    Part of the fault was surely with the McCain campaign’s own press strategy. They kept the secret a little too well to begin with (in part surely because the idea that it might leak out in advance was declared to be disrespectful of the Democrats’ convention), so reporters were thoroughly surprised. And after revealing the pick, they chose not to have Palin do a round of press interviews right away, making some reporters so angry and hungry they began to eat the furniture. As Palin could no-doubt inform McCain’s press team, you should never surprise or anger a wild beast.

    But inadequate animal husbandry cannot finally be blamed for the shocking stampede we have been witness to this week. The spectacle reveals a deep rot at the heart of the political press, and has been among the most shameful chapters in the history of modern American journalism. Not everyone has joined in, of course, but essentially all of the important institutions of our political press have played their part in one way or another. We can only hope those involved have begun to come to their senses, and that they recognize the magnitude of their failure this week. That doesn’t mean they should go easy on Palin: it makes sense to look into her past (as it would make sense to look into Obama’s past at some point before November too), and she certainly needs to prove herself tonight and beyond, as any vice presidential candidate has to. But the treatment she has received is not what just any VP candidate would get, and the attitude and assumptions underlying this week’s amazing assault raise very troubling questions about the cream of the crop of political reporters. They have shown themselves to be too insulated and too solipsistic to help the public better understand our politics, and too self-important to report on events as they happen. This is far more than media bias. Let us hope it is a passing episode.[/rquoter]
     
    #28 basso, Sep 3, 2008
  9. JuanValdez

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    Yes. I'll add the caveat that if they were talking about secession through armed rebellion, I wouldn't be so cool with it. But, if this is a party that looks to using democratic mechanisms to execute the will of the people in seceding from the Union, then yes. I am for self-determination, and don't favor holding Alaska hostage if they want to leave (though I believe they likely don't want to leave). Should a person like Palin become VP or president if they'd rather Alaska secede from the union (in an orderly and legal fashion)? I don't see why not. If they suceeded, that'd be a different matter. Other people have a problem with it, apparently. That's fine.
     
    #29 JuanValdez, Sep 3, 2008
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    You need to learn some history.

    1. Bush was said to not have lied because he had bad information. The NYT had bad information as well.

    2. Not everyone believed they had WMD, and the weapons inspectors from the UN were in Iraq verifying that when Bush and his whitehouse basically pulled them out. It wasn't that Saddam blocked them. Please stop trying to rewrite history.

    3. The terrorists who attacked us weren't in Iraq and had no operational connection with Iraq. By attacking Iraq we did not take the fight to them and attack them in their caves. In fact we took resources from where we had been attacking them in their caves. Sadly resources were taken from Afghanistan to fight in Iraq.

    4. Jimmy Carter did not just try negotiations with Iran. He sent a special military squad in to attempt a commando style rescue of the hostages.

    Your post appears to be one huge error and shows a real lack of understanding of recent history.
     
    #30 FranchiseBlade, Sep 3, 2008
  11. SamFisher

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    Just a quick comment

    Actually my reigning emotion has been a mixture of amusement and glee at the McCain Campaign's VP rollout running off the tracks because it didn't do its homework

    Again Anger? the surprise part is accurate, and they have been coming fast and furious - Palin's past is a lot more colorful than I could have thought last Friday. And the spectacle of a report on her possible official misconduct, due out in October? Oh my god, I love surprises like that!

    This must have been written before Republicans like Peggy Noonan etc were caught on tape trashing the pick, trashing McCain for making the pick, and saying "it's over"

    maybe not a firing squad.....but a lot more amusing than one. Word on the street btw is that Mitt is already gearing up for 2012 . . .lol.
     
    #31 SamFisher, Sep 3, 2008
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