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[REASON] Woke Excess Causes Minority Voters To Flee the Democratic Party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Mar 3, 2021.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    And he even lifts, bro.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I keep trying to enlighten democrats of this with me being a center left and voting for Democrat for the last 20 years. Unfortunately I keep getting labeled conservative and getting man-splained why I'm wrong to think the way I do. It's the condescending way that liberals do it that drives me bonkers.

    The far left don't realize that Trump would have won the election if it weren't for COVID and the democrats lost seats in the house and have a really good chance of losing both chambers after the midterms. The only highlight for the Democrats from the last election was Stacey Abrams and Georgia.
     
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    The Latinos didn’t like these Gringos calling them LatinX

    It would be hilarious if the Gringos went to the wrong resort town in Mexico and called some cartel members LatinX

    would make for some funny Breaking Bad moments
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Because cartel members love it when random white Americans come up to them and call them Latinos or anything else. :confused:
    Are you sure you don't have some posts to make in the GARM?
     
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  5. tinman

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    @Ziggy
    Clutchfans is just one big forum for 99ers
    I mean you know it was made for us
     
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    Cartel members like the gringos when they buy stuff
    But not when the cheapskate gringos make up fake words in Spanish
     
  7. Amiga

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    The socialism label has been around for many years, so it's not much of a shocker that Dem is labeled that way incorrectly. What shocked me was how many Trump supporters believe there are people in the USA that believe in communism. Communism label took effect and was successfully labeled toward DEM within a few months. It speaks to a big problem we have that many folks just glance over or think it's not that big of a deal. How is a huge majority of a major powerful political party believing in alt-fact not a gigantic problem for society?

    Here is another example of how fast the Republican base believes in alt-fact even though people that are there demonstrate vividly that they are hard-core Trump supporters.

    Most Republicans Still Believe Capitol Riot Antifa Conspiracies: Poll (newsweek.com)

    An Economist/YouGov poll published on Wednesday evening shows more than two-thirds of the Republicans surveyed blame anti-fascist activists—colloquially known as antifa—for the violence, which was actually perpetrated by Donald Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists seeking to overturn the result of November's presidential election.

    Antifa Didn't Storm The Capitol. Just Ask The Rioters.
     
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    I was going to bring that up. The sad thing for Romney was that he wasn't that anti-immigrant but in 2012 he couldn't separate himself from the nativist rhetoric of people like Michelle Bachmann. Trump has fully embraced that rhetoric and as we've seen with 2020 it's only gotten worse concurrently with more actual attacks on Asian Americans.
     
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    Bernie and AOC labels themselves as Socialists. Democratic Socialists to be exact. Further evidence of ****ing dumb marketing. As bad as BLM, white privilege, and defund the police.
     
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    Thus I can understand the socialist label. It’s the communism label that shocked me.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Most people can't explain the difference hence using the term socialist itobdescribe yourself is stupid. Only appeals to WOKE folks.
     
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    here's the non-Robby Soave version of the story

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/9701...significant-votes-from-nonwhite-conservatives

    an hour ago
    Why Democrats may have lost significant votes from nonwhite conservatives
    by Tim O'Donnell

    In the latest 2020 election autopsy, David Shor, a veteran of the 2012 Obama campaign who now serves as the head of data science at the progressive nonprofit OpenLabs, broke down for New York why he thinks former President Donald Trump again exceeded polling expectations in the presidential race.

    Shor's analysis shows Democrats lost a significant amount of nonwhite voters, which itself is not a revelation. But he provided more context, explaining that "roughly the same proportion" of Black, Hispanic, and white voters identify as conservative. Traditionally, though, among those three groups, only white voters were polarized at the ballot box. Around 80 percent of white conservatives vote for Republicans, Shor said, but Democrats have generally won the support of nonwhite conservatives overwhelmingly regardless of their personal political ideology, suggesting that, say, economic issues were a more significant factor.

    This year, though, Shor hinted that Democrats may have taken things too far with certain "ideologically charged" issues like the "defund the police" campaign. OpenLabs and its partner organizations, Shor said, have done "extensive" post-election surveys and found that Hillary Clinton voters with "conservative views on crime, policing, and public safety were more likely to switch to Trump than voters with less conservative views on those issues."

    Shor went on to express his belief that as college-educated "white liberals," whom he says are more ideologically inclined, make up a larger share of the Democratic electorate, they'll continue to push the party further to the left, which could alienate nonwhite conservative Democrats. Read the full interview at New York.




     
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    I actually don't mind some aspects of woke culture. We should be able to shed a light on past injustices and talk about it.

    What I don't like is the overreaching as a way of "balancing" those injustices. Haven't read a good op/ed from Thomas Sowell on here in a long time, but he does have a point that liberals have a habit of not have any empirical proof for their their proposals...According to him, it happens often. They usually end up being fraught with impractical execution that dilutes the original intentions of the reform.

    Government generally acts in a one-size-fits-all square-peg-for-round-hole kind of way. The hammer here is future bills that course corrects, but people nowadays have neither the patience (commitment) nor appetite (political winners/losers) to carry an ideal beyond one bill...

    The other aspect I don't like is the illiberal nature of silencing or shunning alternate thought. Ofc, I might be elitst on prefering to listen to mature or well articulated arguments in good faith, since I definitely don't have any patiences for sandbaggers ("just wondering aloud...") or mouthbreathers ("you're a bigot for not allowing me the right to be a bigot!")
     
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    I don't agree that some hijacked the message people were shouting it at rallies and the media ran with it.

    Republicans amplified it as always, name me a candidate that actually ran on it, I don't remember one.

    I will say the squad was the reason it got traction in the media.
     
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    I talked about this right after the election, they targeted a lot of spanish speaking radio and newspapers in Florida and Texas as well.

    They paid a lot of radio personalities as well.
     
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    link?
     
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    This.
     
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    'Defund the police' is nonsense. It is bad messaging.
     
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    @Os Trigonum I will question your intent in your posts and threads started.

    Are any of the minority population of 'liberals' and Democrats crazy ideas you post about over and over anywhere near as radical and off base as the idea that Trump actually won the election and will be sworn in on March 4th?

    Which of the fringe beliefs do you feel leads to more unrest, disruption of society, and the weakening of democracy?
     
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    So what are we supposed to do now
     

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