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[Reality] Harden will lose MVP to Giannis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by W22_STREAK, Apr 5, 2019.

  1. hakeem94

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    great idea!
    on the other hand give The Best NBA Player Award to Harden as long as he plays
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I wonder why Rachel Nichols all of a sudden isn't bringing up her "Best player in the NBA" award? Any ideas @J Sizzle?
     
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  3. CK Johnson

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    I don't even care anymore. Just stay healthy in the playoffs.
     
  4. windpuppy

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    Hakeem to DRob eff you in your face move. It's happening!
     
  5. hakeem94

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    I think she might not like who that player is now.
     
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    I mean chris broussard called giannis the best player in the world because he had a 45point game vs sixers. It's just really fun to watch people's double standards.

    Harden has to "prove it in the playoffs" yet giannis is "the best" without ever winning a single playoff series.

    The love for Giannis in the media is too big. Harden doesn't have a chance.
     
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  7. smoothie_king

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    Harden gets a tough time from media only because he went 0 for 22 after winning the mvp last year.

    In the pivotal game 5 last year, harden was no where to be found! Then in the game where harden went cold, cp3 goes down with bad luck. Epic fail last year!
     
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    We need to come and dominate okc just like we did against the clippers. 40 point triple double or a blow out win by 20 with Harden scoring 30 on 32mins. Just a statement game against a supposedly contender team. If he does get a game like he did against San Antonio he will win the MVP because people have a short term memory.

    The media probably only recalls Giannis against the Sixers and James against the clippers for comparison because it was against good teams.
     
  9. Ryan_Success

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    I’m so annoyed with voting criteria changing to fit narrative. Whatever happened to having to put multiple seasons of solid work to even be considered a MVP. Harden’s consistency over the last 5 years is arguably unmatched and SHOULD be rewarded.
     
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  10. Mr. Space City

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    Harden would have to drop 83+ against OKC to even have a chance at MVP
     
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    its crazy with what all harden has done that he still has to do EVEN MORE to get recognized as the MVP of the league
     
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    your signature hurts.
     
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  13. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Man, somebody on NBATV --- I can't remember his name because he doesn't frequent much --- said, "if Harden doesn't win MVP, he was afraid years from now we'd be asking "how did Harden NOT win"".

    Yes I quoted within a quote.
     
  14. francis 4 prez

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    i'll be honest, this is part of why i can't get too mad about harden not winning it. yes, he obviously should of beat curry. but if he beat curry, he definitely doesn't beat westbrook b/c he already has 1. now there was probably no denying last year's mvp (basically giannis' case this year on steroids) so he could have had 2, but then it would make it even tougher to get this year's. when hakeem and shaq have 1 mvp, it's hard to give a guy without a finals appearance a 2nd one, just from a legacy perspective.

    has it happened? sure. steve nash somehow has 2 without a finals appearance. malone got 2 without winning. but it's also considered pretty ridiculous that they have 2.

    does that change the fact harden is hated by the voters and is getting screwed? no. they hate him so much so that even a guy who openly despises the media - westbrook - was the first non-top 3 seed to win mvp in 30+ years despite james having better actual stats (not just round numbers) and more wins. does it change the fact that wins is all that matters until someone averages something historic (like a triple double) unless harden is the guy who averages something historic. no.

    but still, even if harden's playoff reputation for failing is a little overstated (he was one game from beating an "unbeatable" 4 all-star team until his 2nd best player got injured so he can't be that bad), it just feels like he needs to do something truly great in the playoffs before he gets another mvp, just from a legacy perspective.
     
  15. Rokman

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    So let's put the Bucks in the West and see how they stack up when they play each Western team 4 times instead of 2. What would there ranking be then? I'm guessing somewhere in the mid .600's not .741. The West has 1 team playing under .400 ball. The East has 5. Here's something they media doesn't want to hear, The Bucks play in the weakest Division . . . IN THE LEAGUE!!! Well, isn't that an inconvenient truth? Essentially, they play in the Weakest Division in the Weakest Conference. Aren't they impressive.

    If you were to remove the best team from each Division this is the average of the competition for each team. You can't tell me the Bucks beat up their Division so bad that it caused their averages to be that low.

    Eastern Conference
    Atlantic Division - Bucks #1 - Remainder - .395 (Again, the West has 1 team playing under .400. The rest of his division averages under .400 - Pathetic.)
    Southeast Division - Magic #1 - Remainder - .426
    Atlantic Divison - Raptors #1 - Remainder - .481

    Western Conference
    Pacific Divison - Warriors #1 - Remander - .440
    Southwest Division - Rockets #1 - Remainder - .445
    Northwest Division - Nuggets #1 - Remainder - .573


    Whatever, Giannis is the best.
     
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  16. Rokman

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    FYI - Harden went to the Finals with the Thunder and has led his team to the WCF - Twice, against Arguably one of the Greatest teams ever assembled. You literally have to DIG for reasons not to give him an MVP trophy each year.
     
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  17. elmotsang

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    If he breaks Michael Jordan 37.1 points average scores records, he can get MVP
     
  18. jordnnnn

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    He’d have to break Wilts single game record and then some to do it.

    But I agree. He does that on Tuesday and that might just be enough to sway the voters.
     
  19. HTownTmac1

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    how many points would harden need in the last game to beat that average?
     
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    I'm afraid for voters like Broussard, NIKE has a lot to do with their voting choices. In 2018 they were forced to vote for Harden because there were no other realistic choices, but when they can their choices are based on:

    #1 NIKE

    #2a UA
    #2b Adidas

    I wouldn't even be surprised if people like Broussard have some contact with NIKE representatives and they have some under the table wink wink agreement to always favour NIKE guys. They probably get sent every year tons of free NIKE shoes and sportswear, and if a NIKE player can't be voted for MVP, then they can make a choice more based on true value than marketing. It makes no sense that Lillard (adidas), who is a better player than Kyrie (nike), is way underrated by the media while Kirye is seen as a "top player".
     
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