[Poll] What is your current opinion on Alperen Sengun's ceiling?

good news for AL-P is that his prime will be when the current warriors should be in a retirement home

 

Alpi is a good player. Good. GOOD player. he's not the second coming of Christ. I think he can be a key player on good teams. I don't believe he will be the centerpiece franchise player around which an NBA championship team is built. That was Porzingis

 

Well they are grooming Poole (Steph) Kuminga/Moody (Klay) and we're
hoping Anthony Lamb could be a very cheap knock off of Draymond Green.
As the Rockets were hoping Lamb and Royce White could be Dray.

Dray is suppose to be training Lamb......Dray will probably be leaving soon.

I like Patrick Baldwin whom they drafted as well. He played more on the
perimeter in college than people realize. Defensive metrics have been
Good at every level.

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You may have missed when I posted many teams are trying to copy
What the Warriors are doingg..... stemming back years now.
Boston, Toronto, Miami, Detroit, OKC, Utah, Dallas. etc

More and more mobile big men besides Chet and Wembanyama......Dereck Lively and
Kel"el Ware among others. Bucks will be going without Brooks but replace him with
Bobby Portis/Ibaka-(types)

 

Put better defenders around your best player (Sengun).

 

I think Sengun and green work fine together. But if you insist on separating them, since Sengun is both younger and better than green already, green would be a good sixth man off the bench.

 

Sengun is the best basketball mind on the team, including the head coach. He’s also an unconventional talent in today’s NBA. How much of an impact he ultimately has will be decided by whether he gets a coach who is willing to change their assumptions about the current game and figure out how to use him so that the personal and team potential is unlocked. Silas ain’t that guy. If we trade him, it’ll probably be a Joe Morgan situation where he goes away and has great years and wins championships. The next coach for the Rockets better get here quick and better bring it.

 

That's your opinion.

 

Yes but they are paying Poole a lot of money.....for what? Come off the bench?
No, for the one-two punch from their guards.

Dray is the guy that anchors that defense and stands up the post up threat and help
defenders can stay more at home on their assignments....but also cheat to help
Dray...or Looney.

Chet will be that guy.

Wembanyama will be that guy.

I'm hoping Jabari will grow into that anchor.

League thought Olajawon/Ewing post ups were boring....followed
by Shaq post ups.

Zone was allowed in 2001 I believe to stop it...promote Pace and Space
as a means of generating more scoring.

Mavs used zone defense to beat LeBron/Wade in 2010 I believe.....pushing
the Pace and Space further.

League has put in rules to speed up the game just as the NFL allowing receivers
to roam more free and protecting the quarterback and MLB will throw out the shift
and reduce pick off attempts and time on the mound.....to promote scoring!!

Why do we want to go against the grain.....swim up stream like the salmon
and kill ourselves in the process when we can maximize our dual guard
combo attack and improve our 3-pt shooters or shooting?

 

Actually I predict that is what will happen, not only that, it would be just our luck that he "develops " his 3ball on another team. And we all agree that if or when he adds a 3ball to his game he will be unstoppable. I could see the rockets losing patience and sengun becoming s star somewhere else. My biggest fear for this team behind another kp extension and a silas extension.these would be franchise killers imo.

 

I have no idea, but I am enjoying the ride.

DD

 

His ceiling is definitely best player on a contender. He has natural instincts that cannot be taught and definitely are not being used correctly by an incompetent coach. He was MVP at 18 in pretty good league and has skills very similar to the current reigning NBA MVP. His 3 shot needs to improve and he will never be Hakeem defensively but there is no denying the guy has unique skill set that can allow a team to run an offense through him. If that team has the parts to be a contender then he would be in contention for being the best player on a contender. That being said I voted for integral starter on a contender.

 

You can't keep 5 defensively weak players on the court. I went into the details here:

https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/defense-matters.317853/#post-14384107

Especially the lack of effort from KPJ and Gordon, and with green their lack of team defense is horrible. The centers get the most talking in terms of defense but that is just misdirected.

 

If you’re gonna maximize Sengun, you gotta build your entire team around him. It has to be all about him. I’m not down with that and don’t think the rockets are either. Some decisions are gonna have to be made in the near future. If they decide to make it all about him, then we’ll see how it goes! This roster doesn’t fit at all, but that’s okay, we’ll worry about fit later

 

Agree with everything you've said except this bit at the end. If we have a "Post-Up Prodigy" in Sengun, then I want to use him to generate more wins. I don't care if that is this year because I wouldn't mind being a player in the Wembanyama sweepstakes.

Next season however I want to see a healthy dose of PNR, post-up game, and drive+kick. We have pieces right now to be a versatile high scoring team so I don't see it as an either or.

It just takes commitment to installing an offensive game plan that maximizes the talent we have. Not sure if Silas is the guy (really not sure if we are seeing his best effort X\O wise) but if not we need someone with the vision to implement a diverse and creative offense.

Defense... ... now that is another issue. Wembanyama would be a tremendous help...

 

Hard to say. My personal opinion is he develops a 3-ball to about 34 percent. There are going to be matchups where he is fine defensively and others where he struggles I think he is a starting front court player with four specific players around him. Interestingly, I think we have 3 of 4.

Sengun
Smith
Eason
Green
Above average 3 and D big pg.

or

Wembayama
Sengun
Smith
Eason
Green

 

We're not going to be picking close enough to sniff Wemby.

As to Alperen, perennial All Star at minimum.

 

Well we might have a 15-30 % chance?

 

I've advocated for 5 to 6 post ups per game.........Rockets
average about 87.7 possessions per game. Just so the defense
can see the angle of attack differently.

The question is, what is Sengun doing during the other 81.7 possessions. Currently Sengun
gets 2.8 possessions in the post up play type each game per NBA.com.

I watch Jokic setting screens everywhere. That's what I want Sengun doing
beyond the original setup.
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MLB lowered the pitching mound and searches the pitchers between
innings looking for illegal substances like spider tack in order to help the batters.

At first, batting was up, but now pitching strategies are making a difference.

So new baseball rules will limiting the amount of pickoffs a pitcher can throw.
This will allow for 2nd base to be stolen more. Empty first base will
have more intentional walks to try to set up double play action.
Will result in more runs. Promotion of runs and more offense continues.

What if the NBA wants more offense since defenses are adapting
and getting smarter? *Adopt the 4-pt spot(s) like the big 3 uses?
*Move the 3-point line above the break in so that more players
can make that 3?

You will need more mobile players to guard all four corners of the half court.
Or will you give up 3's and 4's while we get 2's from a few post ups and
occasional cutter?