[Passage] It’s Time To Ban The Sale Of Pickup Trucks

But you don't really need a F-250 super duty to do that. I say that as a person that would drive a F-250 if it didn't cost like 90K like my bud's truck.

 

This is pretty silly, I own a truck and it's a 3rd vehicle but it's saved me and others multiple times when I have to use it as a parts/work truck to fix someone else's/my other vehicles. It's a truck that I should easily get another 150k miles out of (how about that - a vehicle that's going to hit 350k miles not end up in a landfill/junk yard pile of cars that don't last...) and not only hold it's value at this point but last like 30+ years. There's multiple arguments and if you think it's just emissions that are impacting the environment - this whole right to repair trash being discussed lately/already happening is going to do wonders.


Also, I am not saying that smaller cars don't last - but I don't think I'm using a Civic to pick up/transport bigger/dirty reused parts either.

Are there some drivers that probably could drive a smaller vehicle? Sure... But for me - I prefer being self reliant as much as possible.

 

Can you fix/mod my cars? One is a truck the other probably does 9mpg and will be outlawed by Governor Musk in 2099.

 

Do you start threads in the hope that they are ignored?

Or the old tried and true comment of you have no dog in the fights of the threads that you start. It's just a consistent pattern I've noticed is all. You get called out, actually engage with thoughtful replies or you deflect with the LOL WHO CARES?!?!?

 

Agreed.

 

Lol, sure, we can convert it to electric!

 

I've had a F-150 for over a decade. When I was a homeowner, I used the bed frequently for projects. I also owned a pop-up camper that went out often. Currently I'm a renter and I no longer have a camper so it really only gets used to haul my golf clubs and, yes, groceries. Though, I'll be a homeowner again soon and I'll also need to have enough space for 3 teenagers to sit in relative comfort. My current truck is getting close to the end of it's useful life and I really love having a truck. I do not agree with a ban but I would fully understand a tax if the manufacturers can't get these up to the emissions and gas standards they should be at.

 

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And not all of those people tow boats so what he said was accurate.

Trucks have 50% of the US market share, you do the numbers.

 

Don't tax the vehicle, tax the gas. Get the price of gas above 4 bucks nationally and you will see less trucks on the road. It's really that simple.

 

The idea seems sound at face value but it's still a regressive tax in that the poor and middle class are effected more by the tax than the wealthy.

 

I think small four door trucks like the new Hyundai Santa Cruz or the Ford Maverick makes a ton of sense for city dwellers that want a 'truck'. The Ford Maverick can seat 4 comfortably and can get 37mpg combined city and highway with its hybrid engine. The bed is short at 4.5', but it's enough for most home depot trips, especially if you learn to tie down long lumber correctly with the bed down.

I think small trucks would satisfy the vast majority of people that don't need a truck for work.

 

And the ability for lower income people to get to work decrease as well. A gas tax is not the answer, IMO.

 

I was just can making a point about how big trucks have gotten and who buys them. I know several people who own newer F250s. Lets just say they are more hat than cattle.

 

His statement was accurate, I gave you the numbers.

 

Are you ignoring the entire culture of brodozers?

 

There are more trucks on the roads than there need to be, that's for sure. The increase in truck sales is evidence for that. Do you think society needs a truck more than it did 20 years ago?

There's a cultural shift. Suburban dads think they need a truck when they'll maybe tow or haul once a year. Moms think they need a truck built like a tank in case they're hit by a truck when it's a family hauler.

Not sure what solution there is to discourage those unnecessary trucks. Taxing across the board hurts blue collar/labor workers more, who are the ones that'll primarily need a truck. Maybe there is a broad tax but it's credited for certain for work sectors.