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[Passage] It’s Time To Ban The Sale Of Pickup Trucks

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    "It’s Time To Ban The Sale Of Pickup Trucks":

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    Reducing further climate destruction and harm from needlessly fatal road accidents is more important than corporate or consumer freedom.

    Davide Mastracci

    JULY 13, 2021

    The world is facing climate catastrophe, but there’s still a chance at avoiding the absolute worst case scenario. In order for that to happen, we need to cut back on GHG emissions.

    Canada is one of the largest GHG emitters in the world, and has the second highest emission rate per capita of all G20 countries. As of 2019, the transportation sector was the second largest contributor to Canadian emissions.

    Moreover, according to an Équiterre report, “Between 1990 and 2018, total GHG emissions in Canada rose by 20.9 per cent, largely due to transportation. In fact, since 1990, emissions from this sector have increased by 49 per cent and currently account for 30 per cent of Canada’s GHG emissions.”

    As such, drastically cutting emissions from the transportation sector is of the utmost importance for a successful climate strategy. One way to help do so is to ban the sale of pickup trucks to all consumers unless they’re able to meet strict requirements to prove it will be used primarily for work purposes.

    The transportation sector’s problems go well beyond the pickup truck — we need to shift away from relying on private vehicles entirely, regardless of if they’re a Toyota Prius or a Ford F-250 — but I’ll focus on them because they take what’s bad about cars and make them worse, and yet are coming to dominate the market.

    Pickup truck sales have skyrocketed in recent years. Nearly 25 per cent of all passenger vehicles sold in Canada in the first quarter of 2021 were pickup trucks (89 per cent of them classified as full-size trucks), representing a 16 per cent increase from the past period. Moreover, four of the five top selling vehicles in Canada in this period were pickup trucks, with sales of certain models up by as much as 41 per cent. This is part of a global trend.

    It’s a troubling one, as pickup trucks pose risks on the road, and to the environment.

    On The Road
    Pickup trucks have gotten significantly larger over the past few decades.

    As Angie Schmitt writes in Bloomberg City Lab, “Since 1990, [United States] pickup trucks have added almost 1,300 pounds on average. Some of the biggest vehicles on the market now weigh almost 7,000 pounds — or about three Honda Civics.”

    Moreover, as Jason Torchinsky argues in Jalopnik, “The goal of modern truck grilles—especially the larger, Heavy Duty spec trucks—seems to be less about getting the required cooling air and more about creating a massive, brutal face of rage and intimidation.” Pickup trucks have, in fact, gotten much taller, increasing by an average of about 11 per cent since 2000.

    This makes the vehicles far deadlier to pedestrians for two reasons.

    First, their blind spots have gotten much longer.

    A June Consumer Reports investigation, which “measured front visibility for 15 new vehicles, including full-sized and heavy-duty trucks” found that “because of their height and long hoods […] some trucks had front blind spots 11 feet longer than those in some sedans and 7 feet longer than in many popular SUVs.” This means it’s much easier for pickup truck drivers to not see small cars in front of them, much less pedestrians.

    Second, pickup trucks do far more damage to pedestrians in a collision than a car would.

    Consumer Reports, paraphrasing a senior research engineer at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety they spoke to, notes, “In real-world collisions with pedestrians, a pickup’s tall front end and higher bumper are more likely than a lower vehicle’s to cause serious injuries, transferring energy directly to a victim’s hips and pelvis.” A 2015 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration report found that pedestrians are two to three times more likely to die when struck by a pickup truck than a car.

    This danger also applies to those in smaller vehicles when they’re involved in a crash with a pickup truck. The Équiterre report notes, “Accidents caused by light-duty trucks are more dangerous for the person driving the other vehicle than those caused by standard cars. That person’s risk of death is 158 [per cent] higher if the vehicle causing the collision is a pickup truck.”

    Pickup trucks are also far more likely to rollover than cars (and rollover crashes are deadlier), and routinely perform worse in safety tests, including emergency handling and braking.

    Yet despite this all, Consumer Reports found that pickup trucks are also less likely than cars, and even SUVs, to “have certain advanced safety systems as a standard feature.”

    In The Sky
    Pickup trucks don’t only pose a risk to those in their immediate vicinity: they put us all in danger due to their emission levels.

    Canada’s “Excise Tax on Fuel-Inefficient Vehicles” doesn’t applyto pickup trucks, which is bizarre, as Équiterre notes that “in 2018, light-duty trucks emitted on average 31 [per cent] more GHGs per kilometre than standard cars.”

    As Amir Barnea argued in a 2019 Toronto Star article, “A mid-size Honda Civic, the most popular sedan, consumes 7.4 litres of gas per 100 km. In contrast, the average fuel efficiency of a Ford F-series pickup truck is 13.21 litres per 100 km. The government has put in place incentives to increase sales of [zero emission vehicles], but switching from a Honda Civic to an electric car has almost the same impact as switching from a Ford F truck to a Honda Civic in terms of emissions.” Ford F series vehicles were, by far, the best selling vehicles in Canada in this year’s first quarter.

    This is just stock vehicles. Things get much worse when pickup trucks are modified.

    According to the New York Times, a 2020 U.S. federal report found that, “The owners and operators of more than half a million diesel pickup trucks have been illegally disabling their vehicles’ emissions control technology over the past decade, allowing excess emissions equivalent to 9 million extra trucks on the road.” These sorts of modifications were done on more than 15 per cent of all pickup trucks sold in the country.

    The Times article adds, “The report said ‘diesel tuners’ will allow the trucks to release more than 570,000 tons of nitrogen dioxide, a pollutant linked to heart and lung disease and premature death, over the lifetime of the vehicles. […] The report also found that the altered pickup trucks will emit about 5,000 excess tons of industrial soot, also known as particulate matter, which is linked to respiratory diseases and higher death rates for Covid-19 patients.”

    To sum this up: Canada is the second-worst polluter per capita in the world; the transportation industry is the second largest contributor to these emissions; pickup trucks pollute significantly more than cars, and are being sold more, meaning the industry is getting more damaging. As a whole, according to a 2019 International Energy Agency report, Canadians drive the most climate-polluting vehicles, due in large part to pickup trucks.

    Work Exemptions
    A common retort to critiques of pickup trucks is that it’s easy to be critical of them in a city, but people need them for their jobs. Yet as one article I reviewed while doing research, published in The Drive, is titled, “You don’t need a full-size pickup truck, you need a cowboy costume.”
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    conclusion

    The article’s author, Brett Berk, notes, “75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less.”

    I’ve moved once every couple years or so for the past decade, but I haven’t purchased a moving truck. I just rent one when I need it. There’s no reason these drivers can’t do the same.

    Moreover, the industry knows pickup trucks aren’t being used for work, and so they’ve changed what the vehicles actually look like accordingly.

    Traditionally, pickup trucks would have two doors, a bench to sit on and an eight foot long box at the back for storing whatever was needed for the job. Now, as Jil McIntosh in Driving notes, “Most people buy four-door pickups, and while most of their beds are still four feet across, most are only five or six feet long. Regular-cab trucks, the ones most likely to have eight-foot boxes, are so unpopular some automakers don’t even offer them anymore.”

    According to Forbes writer Jim Gorzelany, 81 per cent of new pickup truck purchases are four doors, indicating they’re likely not being used for work.

    This is reflected in the cost of the vehicles as well, which are a far cry from what they used to be when they were generally sold for work purposes.

    Gorzelany notes that in the U.S., “While the base suggested retail price for a half-ton GMC Sierra 1500 pickup in 2019 was $31,195, the average out-the-door transaction was at $58,571 […] The Ford F-150 started at $29,750 last year, but its average selling price was $53,409.” These are both among the top five selling Canadian vehicles.

    I’m not going to speculate as to why people buy pickup trucks, but the reality is the vast majority aren’t doing so for work purposes.

    Their choice is putting us all at risk, whether on the streets, or through damage to the climate. Reducing further destruction to the climate and harm from needlessly fatal road accidents is far more important than corporate or consumer freedom.

    It’s time to ban sales of pickup trucks for non-work purposes, for all of our sakes.


    Davide Mastracci is the managing editor of Passage. You can follow him on Twitter and read more of his work through his website.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Interesting insights and a necessary argument to present in pursuit of climate change goals, but completely unworkable idea. There's a slippery slope fallacy but easy argument against this by claiming luxury sedans, sport cars, SUVs and any other category of car would ultimately be targeted for the same ban.
     
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  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I think an outright ban is unworkable but there shouldn't be as many pickups on the roads. A lot of people driving them don't have any need to drive them but do so more out of cultural and style reasons. The same with SUV's.
     
  5. Space Ghost

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    I'm certainly in favor of a progressive mass and volume tax for vehicles, especially vehicles modified outside of the manufacturers original form.
     
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    I don't off-road or tow and I hate Buccees (lulz). But I still drive a Tacoma because it never breaks and we flood here. But now you're telling me my Tacoma is CAUSING the floods? What a pickle.
     
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    Not in favor of making it illegal, but it should be totally acceptable to slap any dumbass that buys a dualie F350 and uses it only for commuting and grocery shopping.
     
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    Pickup trucks do keep getting bigger and bigger. My '15 Colorado looks small compared to many, but it's bigger than most '05 full-size trucks.

    Not that I agree with any sort of ban. Just saying, they do keep growing in size at a crazy rate.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    The entire industry is increasing the size and weight if their vehicles. Example would be a new BMW M3 being the same size as a 2005 M5. Or a new Civic being the same size as a 2005 Accord.
     
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    Vehicle size shrank when there were supply shocks from embargoes. Seems like Americans only sacrifice when they no longer have the choice.
     
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    I don't favor a ban either. But I do think that if you don't have work reasons or other real need for one, there should be a bigger tax on these things. But I'd put other large vehicles in that category as well - including the gas guzzling jeeps.

    there should be a carbon tax on fuel which despite being regressive, that should be used to invest in electric vehicles or fusion power as well.
     
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    The last time I drove a pickup was hauling stuff down to Houston. Then I rented it from Enterprise. I certainly don't need to drive a Ford F250 to commute or run daily errands. I think that is about right for someone like me to be driving a pickup.

    If I was working construction that would be different matter but I spend most of my time designing buildings sitting in front of a computer and not hauling tools and materials to a job site.
     
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    The thing is there is already a premium on them in terms of fuel and price. A truck runs 40-80K and gets poor gas mileage. The only thing that will curb their sale is gas prices. Remember when gas prices were over 4 bucks. Barely anyone bought a truck back then.
     
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    Long term EV's will take care of this problem. Fuel prices will continue to go up as demand drops.

    Short term, bigger vehicles obstruct views and heavier vehicles create more carnage in accidents. There is no need to keep going bigger and bigger.
     
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    Can't ban since that would cause an uproar but you should def pay more in registration fees/taxes for these big ass trucks.
    The amount of F150s on the road is very high especially in Texas.
     
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    I have one and it’s a hell of a gas guzzler. 14mpg on the hwy, but it’s not my daily driver. My LS was bought for DD duties.
     
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    Do your expect all us old types to understand your millennial acronyms? ;)
     
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    I drive a big ass truck because being a Houstonian I have lost cars to floods, so I need something big. Also, the way the roads are, everything is an obstacle.

    But aside from that. Nobody should have to justify buying the vehicle they want. I would drive one anyway because I like them, and I don't need any other reason than that.

    I swear people forget the country we live in. We get to have choices and lots of them. It's a good thing.
     
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    It's like a child that doesn't understand that personal choices effect others.

    Like no I don't think banning trucks is the way to go but your logic is still stupid.

    If purchasing something or manufacturing something in Mass creates a situation where the air becomes toxic hypothetically aren't you restricting the individual rights of an asthmatic person's right o step outside and breathe the air without getting into an asthma attack?

    That's the part that right wingers don't understand about individual rights. You don't have some inherent right if your percieve right harms others.

    So obviously there are situations where there will be a restriction in what can be sold and made based on whether if the entity that is being sold causes harm to other individuals that aren't you.

    The roads don't require a lifted truck. Modern entry level compact cars even have sufficient dampening that makes driving on bad roads perfectly fine.
     
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