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[Official] Texans offseason thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. rhino17

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    I think Dunta used too look better in his early days because whoever next to him was always so bad. I used to think his man was never thrown to because he was that good, but it probably had more to do with guys like Faggins being just that much more incompetent. Now that they have someone about as good as Dunta, teams are willing to throw at him and he is being exposed as an average cover corner. I think he is worth keeping around to an extent at this point but not worth breaking the bank over.
     
  2. dbigfeet

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    i want them to re-sign Duante to play free safety
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    well i agree, he is worth keeping around, just not at that an inflated rate. He's slightly above average for a CB and should get paid that way.

    as for Gerhart...Alston 2.0? i'd take that in a heartbeat, especially if the texans lose Leach for whatever reason, texans are screwed at FB. WIll be interesting to see his combine numbers.
     
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    Combine starts today for non skill position players. ex. o-line
     
  5. RocketFan007

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    All of those guys are worse than Dunta, and most of them would also cost us a pick since they're restricted. This simply is not a smart move by the Texans in a year where they have to win. Now we have to spend our first round pick on a CB, which takes away from filling our other holes.
     
  6. Coach AI

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    Even though the Texans definitely need help, I don't see the point in paying long term, big money to Dunta. He would want to get paid like a top 2 corner.

    He's not a top 2 or 3 corner.

    Unless we believe he would take the franchise tag or a short term deal, I don't see another way around it.
     
  7. RocketFan007

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    No one is going to give him top 2 or 3 money, and he doesn't have a choice to accept the franchise tag or not, although he did mention after the season that he wouldn't mind being tagged.
     
  8. msn

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    of course he wouldn't mind being tagged now -- the team has improved, and his play went downhill. the tag would be his best paycheck.

    buh-bye, PayMe.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    sig bet he gets paid more than 10 mil. ?

    Corners are hard to find.
     
  10. msn

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    nah; my opinion of it isn't that strong. it will surprise me, though, if he does net more than 10 large in one year.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    I agree that he may get top 10 money and I also agree that pro bowl corners are hard to find...but Dunta is no where near a probowl corner.

    He was burned more times than any other cornerback we had last season. Apart from a few nice plays, the guy either got burned deep or had a 15 yard cushion and allowed his guy to get a 10 yard pass. I think he hurt us more than he helped us last season.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    10 million in one season? No way in hell does any team pay him that much money...like a 5 year 50+ million deal? Man, if any team is that stupid, they are looking at a hellacious 5 years.
     
  13. ROXRAN

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    Agreed, it became very obvious that GQ was larger (better tackling), AND better in coverage...I can't say I feel comfortable on the other side, but J. Reeves while lacking quickness did well enough in coverage...
     
  14. DonkeyMagic

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    considering he got paid almost 10 last year and would get guaranteed another 10 this year if franchised...i'm sure he'd love that. essentially 20 mill. Thats the "pay day" (or days in this case) that players look for.

    Coaches must have confidence that the other young corners can make a lot of progress.
     
  15. Cannonball

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    Also remember that until this year, he only played one side of the field. He wasn't always going against the opponents #1 receiver and sometimes guys like Faggins were. This was the first year the Texans didn't do that and Dunta was always on the other teams best WR.

    So in earlier years, when Dunta was clearly our best corner, opposing teams were able to pick which corner their receivers matched up against so it's no surprise that they'd pick on Faggins all day.
     
  16. gucci888

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    Well, CB shoots up to the #1 offseason priority IMO unless the Texans are confident in Reeves/McCain. Almost certain that we'll address the secondary with our 1st.

    IMO, Earl Thomas should now be our solidified 1st round choice. A lot of scouts think he may be better suited at CB due to his coverage ability and size. Either way, having a ballhawk is now SEVERELY needed.
     
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    Not interested in the bet...but $10 million next season? $10 million total? That's kind of a general number. NFL contracts are all about guaranteed money, not the total amount of the contract. Players know that the likelihood of playing out their big contracts is unlikely since the contracts aren't guaranteed, so what they are really negotiating for is the amount of money guaranteed. This is what held up Dunta and the Texans last year.

    My guess is that he gets a 2-4 year contract. It might be structured so that he makes $10 million toward the end of it, but I think it will be less for this year. But again, the important thing to Dunta will be the guaranteed money since the likelihood of him getting cut before it's over is pretty high (both for ability and financial reasons).

    He got better toward the end of last season, but he stunk it up for 2/3 of the year. We're not losing out on too much- remember we got Glover Quin in the 4th round last year, so no need to panic. It's not like we are forced to take a corner in the first round.
     
  18. Ramathorn006

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    McCain shows he can be decent but Jacque Reeves (oh lord) forget about it. I hope we re-sign Daunta and then draft Earl Thomas then trade for Moss!

    Yeah i know none what i just said will probably happen but i can wish.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He'll make more than 10 million a year for 3-4 years. That's just the market trend for CB's. Washington is interested in him already from what I've heard.

    No salary cap means player WILL be overpaid. That's why he's leaving.

    I know he's overrated but the only way you can help the secondary now is going after Juilius Peppers and force the QB's to throw stupid passes.

    too bad it looks like McNair is going the "facially responsible route".
     
  20. DieHard Rocket

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    Maybe, but not $10 million guaranteed each year. If he sucks after year two, they are either going to cut him or restructure. No way he's making $30-$40 million guaranteed. The Texans offer was rumored to be $22 mil last year.

    And he's leaving because we didn't franchise him. If he does get overpaid during the uncapped year, it's even less likely that he plays out the contract since owners that go crazy this offseason will have to scramble to get back under the cap once a new CBA is reached.
     

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