[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Please never put Vince Young and LeBron James names in the same sentence again. James came out of high school and played at an amazing level. In his thrid year in the league he's considered one of the top 5 players in the game. This is exactly why it is so hard to even have this debate. Anyone who feels VY is comparable to LeBron( except they would both be home town guys) is smoking crack.

 

I love how Young is guranteed to put the Titans up there with the Colts for al ong time. People make it like he's promised stardom when there's tons of questions about him. He's not even the best prospect in the draft and most likely will be the 2nd QB taken. Bush is the top prospect in the draft yet everyone here wants to point out all his flaws and negatives but think Vince is going to be a Franchise QB for sure. The LeBron James thing still has me ready to jump.

 

at 18 years old, VY was considered the top football prospect in the nation, if i remember correctly.

at 18 years old, Lebron James was considered the top basketball product in the nation, if I remember correctly.

NBA doesn't have developmental leagues...high school players are routinely drafted.

NFL teams are not allowed to draft football players until they've played at the college level a couple of years. Developing even the best QB prospects usually takes some time....the learning curve is much greater than it is for NBA players.

 

I think you just made him jump.

 

Those aren't legit arguments to compare Young to James. So are the top hockey and baseball prospects comparable to James too? At 18, James was being heralded as the best prospect ever (in any sport). He was on the cover of SI and despite all this came into the league and made an immediate impact. Young was a redshirt Freshman.

James went #1 overall and even though the learning curve is different and so it the physicality of the two games it's doubtful Young would have been drafted anywhere but in the last 3 rounds.

James has already proven himself at the highest level of competition. Young will sit on the bench for at least a year and may never even turn out to be a good player. There are no comparisons between the two.

 

at 18 yrs old Felipe Lopez was considered the top basketball prospect in the nation

 

Why? I'm not insulting the poster but i still don't think he made any valid points as to why Young compares to LeBron. I guess Brien Taylor and Todd Van Poppel compare to them too. That's just silly.

 

I think he meant they compare in terms of what they can bring to the team/league. Of course VY wouldn't have gone anywhere but in the last 3 rounds, hell, he probably wouldn't have gotten drafted at all. Trying to make a point on where they would have been drafted right out of h.s. is moot since we all know the rules.

In terms of the stardom they bring to the team, the buzz around the city, the potential they have, I think it's not too bad to say VY could be the Lebron of the NFL. I mean, some have called him the Jordan of the NFL already.

 

That's where I have to disagree. If there's a chance you aren't even going to be the top player picked at your position then you aren't LeBron James. The only thing I'll agree with you on is the buzz around the city. Young isn't the type of star LeBron is. He won't bring that type of stardom. LeBron is a once in a decade type player. Young isn't that. If Young was that type of talent (LeBron) there wouldn't even be a question as to who goes number 1. I think it's horrible to say Vince could be the LeBron of the NFL. Peyton Manning isn't even considered to be on that level. I hope nobody here thinks Vince will be better then Peyton Manning. Whoever called him the Jordan of the NFL is an idiot. They would be an idiot if they said that about Bush too. This hype is way out of control

 

But they (meaning media and Bush supporters) have been saying that about Bush, but for longer. Yet, this is the first time you feel the need to "jump".

 

But the hype is there, out of control or not. You're right, Lebron is a once in a decade player, but so is Bush/VY (if they live up to the hype).

As far as Young not being the type of star Lebron is, that is true. Basketball players get a whole lot more exposure than football players. But with everything else being equal, VY could be the biggest star in the NFL just like Lebron is for the NBA.

 

I have yet to hear a Bush supporter or member of the media compare him to LeBron or Jordan. Sorry, but I'd like to see that in print. Here, we have a few posters who somewhat agree with the LeBron comparison and one that said they heard an analyst call him the Jordan of the NFL. All this before he's taken a snap? If you've noticed, i have stayed away from this thread for a while now because it's starting to wear real thin on solid debate and is becoming more and more ridiculous by the second.

 

I've stayed out of it ever since they re-signed Carr. This debate is OVER.

 

I don't honestly believe Young is a once in a decade type player. I think Bush has the talent to be. I think Vince can be a great player but i don't think he's going to be better then McNabb. McNabb isn't a once in a decade player.

I think Bush is more talented then Young is personally. I also feeel there's a better chance of him having great success in the NFL then Young. It's just my opinion.

I can't see Vince being the biggest star in the NFL (that would mean he'd have to at least be the best player at his position and I don't see him ever being better then Peyton Manning or having the star power of a Tom Brady). If you look at it, he'd have to go to the Super Bowl and 3 NFC championship games before we put him on the level of McNabb. I think Bush has a better chance of coming in and getting 1200-1500 yds rushing and 500 yds receiving then Young does dominating immediately. We'll have to see.

 

I felt that way too. I don't have a problem with anyone who thinks Young will be good or even great ( I hope he is ) but I don't want it to be here. I want us to go get Bush, a couple of OL's and some decent defensive players and give Carr a chance to shine.

It's hard to deal with Houston fans sometimes because they defy logic completely. We have people who want to trade TMac. It's amazing.

 

it's not comparable if you're going to map development in that way. james has already proven himself at the highest level of competition BECAUSE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COMPETITION ALLOWS HIM TO! The NFL does not allow for that even as a possibility. Even if they did, it would be incomparable....because it's such a different sport.

There are examples of guys contributing and doing quite well right out of high school in basketball. In football, it's entirely unheard of. So if that's the way your'e judging it, the #1 high school basketball prospect is always "better" than the #1 high school football prospect.

 

and how is that different from the Reggie Bush is the Gale Sayers of our generation statements??? without playing a down in the NFL, he gets that title.

 

i'm not the one who brought up LeBron's name. That came from a Vince guy. I have just been posting how ridiculous a comparison it is.

 

I guess you didn't watch SportsCenter all season long then. Bush was/is being hailed as the BEST football player to come out EVER. The media/analysts were all over him, saying he will be better than Sanders, Sayers. Hell, one football player (forget who, someone who was good though) said he was already the best football player in the world!!

If you think VY is being overhyped, then you must have really bad short-term memory. Bush received more exposure/praise than any other football player last season, NFL or college. He was LITERALLY being called the best football player to ever, all this before he even took a snap.

 

At least we are talking about the same sport in terms of Sayers. Sayers isn't Jordan and he isn't LeBron either. I understand how great a RB Sayers was but I promise you that Bush has a much better chance of being in the same class as Sayers when he retires then VY does of being considered in the same class as Jordan (BEST OF ALL TIME and international icon) and James (currently working on it)