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[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 11, 2006.

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  1. gucci888

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    The Pac10 does get a bad rap in general, but other than USC, they don't have good enough teams to show otherwise, especially on the defensive side.

    I wouldn't say UT stopped USC's offense, like you said, we still gave up 550 yards and 38 points. Leinart played a great game, White was unstoppable, and Jarrett was great. But I would say that we stopped Bush, he still put up some numbers, but if you can contain him from the sidelines, he doesn't get a lot of chances to "break away."
     
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    Dumbest thing I've ever seen on this board!
     
  3. IC2000

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    i know you don't really mean college career of Young do you?
     
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    Did not know that, sorry to frank gore. Insert another person who had a low score then, whoever you would like
     
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    I just don't get the criticism that Young's throwing motion is a negative. It might be if he's only 6', but at 6'5" or 6" he's probably releasing the ball at a higher point then most QB's with perfect form. In the photo below, I bet the ball's released at around 6'8" or more even with him in a semi-crouch. A little coaching and he could even move it up a little. And it sure looks to me like he can throws darts when needed. The ultimate payoff for the Texans is potentially much greater if they go with Young. If Bush, the best case scenario I can see is something similar to an OJ-led Bills or a Sanders-led Lions... some decent seasons, maybe a playoff appearance or two, never real contenders for the Super Bowl.

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    What about our second round pick? From the latest mock draft that I saw (nfl draft countdown), it looks like the early entrants are pushing some nice offensive line prospects down into the second round. Georgia's duo of Max Jean Gilles and the TE Pope could be available. I'd be pleased with either of them, especially Pope.
     
  7. reggietodd

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    If the Texans draft VY with the #1 overall pick, you get to pick my signature for 1 year. I'll also paint my face orange, go onto 610 and sing the UT anthem while wearing a shirt that says, "Chance is my daddy" & "I was owned on www.clutchfans.net"

    What will you do if they don't take VY? If its reasonable, i'll take the bet.
     
  8. gucci888

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    Wow! That sounds more like a game bet than a who we're gonna draft bet.
     
  9. Desert Scar

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    Actually Steve Young is an excellent comparison if you remember him well. Superfast, like 4.5 speed (ran for over 4000 yards in the NFL), OK but not great arm where he excelled through those loopy but accurate short to medium passes mainly.

    Other than VY being another 3+ inches taller/30lbs bigger there is a ton of similarity as prospects once you look behind the systems. I have little doubt VY would have been successfull is the systems SY and S McNair played in. VY played against so much better caoched and so much more talented defenses, and still lead the nation in passing efficiency.

    Of course it doesn't mean VY will the passer in the pros like SY or McNair, but you certainly can't discount it. Look at the competition the latter two players played with, or Ben Rothlesburger for that matter.

    Yes his first 2 NFL seasons were not good.
     
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    I doubt that any of the Pac10s would hold SC to even 550 yards if they played them in the Rose Bowl, with weeks to prepare esp. for their defense.

    Pac-10 always gets a lot of credit for what they do well, offense. Some people (including sprots writers) get all excited about offenses and forget about the importance of defenses. I think that stokes the disdain for the conference's weak defenses.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    "As draft day grows more imminent, the traditional football wisdom will remind decision makers that it's the franchise quarterback who transforms teams," he said. "He's the one who takes them to the playoffs and on to Super Bowls."

    - Former 49ers Coach Bill Walsh

    Los Angeles Times 1/6/06
     
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    Winston Justice might drop on account of character issues. I ask you USC fan if the Texans should risk a second round pick on a guy that might be frequenting 59 & Hillcroft saturday nights.

    Pope is gonna be gone before our pick. Mercedes Lewis might be there though.
     
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    sounds like you're rooting for him to not score well on the wonderlick. typical bitter, jealous aggy.
     
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    That is a money throw. That little DB was all over the receiver.
     
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    According to John McClain's Texans Report (Chronicle website) he gives a couple of common sense facts as to why he now thinks that the Texans will draft VY.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/

    Having listened to his info, I'd still rather the Texans draft Bush but he does make some good points.

    Either way, I think we can all agree on one thing: The Texans are about to be reborn again. And, just in time for the Cowgirls.
     
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    Casserly is on 610 right now for the next hour.

    As for the draft, he's basically said it's still early. Any reports coming out right now about who they're going to draft are completely false, especially considering they haven't even hired a coach yet.

    When a caller asked about Vince and how "there will be riots" if he's not drafted, he said he understands the loyalty some fans here have, but they can't worry about that when making their selection. The #1 thing is to win football games.
     
  17. mogrod

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    Wow. McClain knows his sh**, and the fact he just flat out said they will hire Kubiak and draft Young (especially this early) is interesting.
     
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    Casserly said that fan favorites will not be considered when drafting. He said whatever is best for the team and winning games. Said they have not made up their mind, haven't even hired a head coach and when they do make up their mind, they won't broadcast it. Because trading the pick is still a possibility. Don't want to show your hand early.

    He also owned some Red Raider who callled in talking about Wes Welker. lol
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Yep,

    I think we will take Young too, and I also believe what he said about Kubiak...

    So we have an Aggie coaching a LongHorn...both storied Texas programs playing a big part in the Houston Texans future...

    It doesn't get any better than that.

    DD
     
  20. reggietodd

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    Then why don't you take the bet with me? After listening to Casserly this morning, i'm even more comfortable taking the bet.

    He sounded all business, really like he had a chip on his shoulder, especially the way he owned that Red Raider. He does not care what the fans think, hes going to make the draft pick for what is best for this team.

    Take the bet. ?
     
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