[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Tommy Maddox != compotent QB

 

So you think it is fair to compare David Carr's circumstance to other QBs?

Plenty of QBs have up and down careers...

How is Carr like Trent Dilfer? Because he is from Fresno St? Other than that, I see no likeness...

 

Locks onto one receiver, doesn't check down very well at the line of scrimage, the team does not view him as a leader...yadda...yadda...yadda.....

Car = Dilfer

Yes, they can be successful if surrounded by GREAT players, but they will not elevate their teamates.

DD

 

I'm pretty sure you're wrong on all these from reading scouting reports about Carr. They could be wrong but I think I trust them more. Plus Carr's arm is way better than Dilfer's.

 

Bro, you could pose any arguement you want, back it up with stats and probably game film, and DaD still won't like Carr. It's like Carr kicked him in the jimmy, stole his lunch money and pissed in his Cheerios - don't waste your time arguing with him. You'd have better luck with your bathroom wall.

 

Why does Carr get a pass but DD doesn't? He's been respectable running behind this horrible OL.

 

Because the Texans OL is decent in run blocking schemes, they just can't hold a pass rush to save their lives.. the quick hits on a run play they can do..

 

Who is bashing DD? Most people who want Bush admit DD is pretty good. I think he will still be quite usefull even if we draft Bush. His problem is he is injury prone and doesn't have anywhere near the explosiveness of Bush.

 

Comments like this lead me to believe you don't REALLY understand the game. Like the others have said, we run block well, that's why Wells and Morency also look pretty good too. We cannot pass block, we have one receiver that is very good, one that is average, and one that is terrible, and we have do not have a TE that can catch. Add all of that to terrible coaching and you have the reason Carr has struggled.

 

Stevel,

That was funny.

However, Carr's line is certainly a factor, however at least half of those sacks are on Carr himself, where he gets plenty of time, but fails to find a receiver, or to throw the ball away.

Carr is a decent guy, and could still develop into a decent QB, but he is NOT worthy of a number 1 pick.

2-14....that is what he led his team to in his 4th year....2-14...sure coaching sucked...no doubt, but Carr has to do better than that.

The team is not going to turn around by drafting one guy...Bush nor Young would make that much of a difference, it needs a lot of free agent signings and some jettisoning of the bad wood.

Keep Carr, franchise him, draft VY, and let the competition begin.

DD

 

Excuses, excuses, excuses...........

So, Carr is great, but the rest of the team sucks, right?

I think they are all copable.

DD

 

How do you know this? Carr has never been surrounded by GREAT players.

 

That's probably the worst idea. It makes no sense #1 QBs on the roster? Plus you'd be asking Carr to do better without getting him anymore help.

 

it amazes me that people actually argue that we don't need a qb so we take a rb when the exact opposite is the case as far as actual production. do we need a qb, we simply don't know. I know we don't need a running back.

 

Nobody is arguing that DD sucks or that RB is a huge hole. We are arguing that Bush is the kind of explosive talent that you can't pass up on (unless you get a monster deal to trade down). He is the highest rated player in the draft, it makes sense to take him. If VY was the highest rated player and the next McNabb then I would want him.

 

Joe Montana/Steve Young
Roger Staubach/Danny White
Drew Brees/Phillip Rivers

There are several cases of teams having 2 great QBs.......at least for a time......

If the Texans don't draft VY, and Carr continues to struggle, where are they going to get a QB?

The QB is the most important position on the entire team, he touches the ball 100% of the time on offense, Carr has not proven to be a good one....he has had FOUR years......and I still don't see a leader out there.

I see a nice guy who is trying hard, but is getting hammered, partly due to bad line play, partly due to horrid play calling, and partly due to slow decision making by Carr himself.

Not to mention the guy has been BATTERED for 4 years, he is probably gun shy......time to start over....IMHO

DD

 

Didn't he lead them to the playoffs a few years ago?

 

Has Carr led them to the playoffs? I forget.

 

Is VY even the highest rated QB in the draft? I forget.

 

Running backs typically last 3-4 years.

Domanick is heading into year 4.

Can you say insurance policy?

I love the split backfield.. I always have..

I view it almost like my sneaker collection.. if I have a rotation of 2-3 shoes I wear, I typically get more use out of each of them, and I can change shoes depending on the situation. It makes the team more dynamic and allows you to keep more talented, fresh-legged players on the field.

Rotating quarterbacks is a DISASTER waiting to happen.. which is why I prefer taking an RB this draft. The best thing we could hope for in taking another QB is motivating Carr (ala Rivers/Brees) to do better.. but that isn't a sure thing.. and if it doesn't work.. we have to start completely over with a new QB, who might suck even worse for all we know. Hopefully Ragone's performance in NFL Europe has shown the Texans organization that we have more than one capable QB on the roster.. and they'll give Dave some more serious consideration, if nothing else to show Carr that he is not untouchable.

My biggest hope is that Bush will be another Marshall Faulk. Tremendous elusiveness, great speed, terrific hands, and decent pass protection. And if Bush is what he is cracked up ot be, he should be able to help both DD and Carr... if Bush is taking up that much attention on offense it will certainly make things easier on both of them.