[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Cat, Major, Desert, RM95, etc.... were outnumbering me by trying to take away my credibility to give an accurate recap of what was said on 610.

I'm not anti-VY. But i'm against the Houston Texans drafting him #1 overall.

 

It's not even numbers here bro. I'm sure you could give two ****s about what other boards think but if you want an unbiased opinion that's where you seemingly have to look. We're in Texas and Young is like a God here (there is an official Vince Young day for Christ's sake) and you say it's not biased down here. Look at this board and tell me that it's an even split.

 

Bro - I am with you, this is getting ridiculous. I tried to make some points solely about Bush - nothing to do with VY, and I get responses like I can find good comments about VY too. My points with my posts were to point out that the arguements against Bush were getting a tad silly - he can't run between the tackles ect... I give up. You can't debate with people that don't listen to your arguements. I can't wait for the end of April so all this crap will be put to rest. I am like you VY is great but IMO not for the Texans - take Bush or trade the pick.

 

I didn't make any comments regarding what you heard on 610. I made a comment on the guy's scouting report of VY and McNeal.

Your comment, "these guys usually outnumber me" clearly implied you were talking about more than just this one time, hence the word usually.

But seriously, don't let me get in the way of your impending martyrdom.

If I was bored enough, I'd go through the 35 pages and count. Most people who are consistently arguing back and forth are equally split into both camps. Hell, I don't even care who they pick, I think we're golden either way.

Why should I care what other city's boards think? I don't even care what other scouts think. The only people's opinions that I care about are the ones by Texans' coaching staff, scouting department and front office. We'll find out on April 29, 2006 (a muther****ing light year away if you ask me) what they think.

 

Sometimes when I'm reading this thread looking for updates I may have missed, I get the impression I'm in a D&D thread.

 

It works both ways, trust me. Desert Scar, agree or disagree with him, puts thoughtful analyses in his posts, and people threaten to put him on their ignore lists. Yeah, Bust supporters are just 100% open-minded, huh?

And if you want to talk unbiased, I honestly do not care. I'm a huge UT t-shirt fan and I've pretty much said from day one that I think the Texans are in a no-lose situation. I'd love to draft VY, have him live up to his potential, and lead his hometown team to the promised land. I'd love to draft Bush and see what Kubiak can do with Bush/Carr/AJ/Davis/hopefully a 2nd WR/hopefully a TE who actually doesn't blow monkey balls. I'm personally in a no-lose situation. The Bush supporters here are the only ones making me lean towards VY if I had to choose with a gun to my head.

 

All Desert Scar does is Bash Reggie Bush. He's like a politician, instead of promoting himself, he just degrades his opponents. The Bush supporters, don't necissarily bash VY, they said VY is great, but he's not the right pick for the Houston Texans.

 

Umm, if you read the context, here's that quote again:

If you can't get much for Carr, you trade down and fill several holes on the team. Either way, it also saves you the money of having two #1 picks on your team (most teams don't even have 1). A team like the Texans with so many holes doesn't have that kind of money to commit to 2 players, neither of which are proven to be worth it at this point.

The point was that if you take Bush, you now have two players (Bush and Carr) that haven't proven themselves worthy of #1 pick money. Carr because of performance, and Bush because he's not in the NFL. This goes directly back to my point of this team having too many holes to fill to put #1 pick money into two players.

It doesn't even address Vince Young, although he would clearly fit the same as Reggie Bush - that he hasn't proven himself worthy of #1 pick money yet. *NO* rookie has, because they haven't accomplished anything in the NFL. It's one thing to spend that kind of money on one player taking a chance at greatness - every team who has a #1 pick does this; however, this team is in no position to do that with TWO players. So I propose either keeping the one we have (Carr) and trading down for multiple lesser picks, or trading him and getting a replacement QB at #1.

Does that clarify?

 

You absolutely crack me up. Seriously, thanks for the laugh.

 

I'm pretty sure that you said my recap was subjective

Its not about that. I'm all for some good debate. Plus think of it in a way, for you, to be back into the D&D.

 

I was making fun of the guy's misuse of words.

Threatening (or if you actually did it) to put Desert Scar on your ignore list does not sound like someone who's all for some good debate. He's arguing his side, whether you agree with it or not, very well. The fact that you don't see that shows your own personal biases.

 

Once again, don't post a cheap comment and run. Show me where I have bashed VY in the way Desert Scar bashes Reggie Bush. I even remember calling VY the black jesus in one thread. My take this whole time is that the Houston Texans aren't drafting a quarterback. Its not about Bush or Young. Quarterback is the key word in my argument.

 

I don't know about all the other stuff the scout said, but the only making big running plays to the right statement is completely false, it looks like he prefers his right, like Vick prefers his left, one right hander, one left hander... carry on.

 

The same can be said of Reggie Bush and he's the clear cut top prospect in the draft (according to pretty much every scouting service).

Let me ask you this, do you think Carr sucks. If Young wasn't in this draft (answer honestly) would you be looking to replace David? If the answer is no, then your argument is seriously flawed. Both have amazing upside.

 

Yeah, he was talking about my misuse of words when a couple posts back he put "Bust supporters" instead of "Bush supporters". I love interenet English teachers. You have too much time on your hands if you proof read your posts. However, if you're going to talk trash about someone else screweing up you better be perfect yourself (which obviously you're not).

 

Amare is the black Jesus (just read his neck). There can't be two.

Seriously, that's my exact point all along that people just ignore or won't listen to. We aren't picking a QB ( I even said if I had to choose between the 3 qb's I'd take VY). Bush helps the Texans more then Young does. Carr doesn't suck like a lot of people think and he will prove that soon. I think Carr still has star potential while i think DD is a good RB who will always be hurt.

 

I did put him on my ignore list initially and after cooling off, I took him off. You got me on that one.

 

So if the Cavs had used their #1 on a SF/G a few years back that just didn't have the right talent around him, they should've passed on LeBron? You draft for needs with picks 10+ or so, not the first pick. You pick the best player in the draft, regardless. Personally, I'd be happy with Bush or VY, but I have a feeling it's going to be Bush now..

EDIT: On top of that, IMO DD has been more effective at his position than Carr has at his.

 

Actually, I was just being funny. You need to chill just a tad.

 

i thought jesus was the black jesus. i'm so confuscated