[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

Yeah, you're pretty much the only one supporting Bush here.

 

Nice one. Once again brining up something totally not relevant to the subject at hand being what the scout and Lance said on 610 this morning at 9am.

 

I'm not supporting Bush. Are you blind to that? I'm gave everyone here a recap of what someone on 610 said this morning and got attacked for it. It was said that my recap was subjective and one poster even called me a liar.

Don't take cheap shots and run away, show me how i'm supporting Bush by giving the bbs a recap of what I heard?

 

You buried yourself in this post here bro. You said if the Texans can get something good for Carr then they should take Young. Then you say that neither carr nor Bush has proven to be worht the number 1 pick yet? Bush is a higher rated prospect then Young. Explain to me how Bush hasn't proven he's worth the number 1 overall pick. You also say scouts know a hell of a lot more about football then you do. I'm confused.

 

Decent theory, but I don't buy into it. I think Lance is a VY supporter and he was being honest of his experiences of the Seinor Bowl and his interactions with NFL scouts.

 

I am. Being as that I'm a Michigan fan and want what's best for the texans I think i have one of the most unbiased opinions here. Most everyone in this debate either has some allegience to UT or A@M of which I have neither.

 

It's very relevant to the subject at hand. I'm questioning whether the information you claimed was said on 610 was indeed reliable and in general questioning where your opinion is objective enough to be reliable. Anyone who predicted five turnovers in the Rose Bowl from Vince Young - one of the greatest big game players in the history of college football - seems to have a bit of a bias against him. He's done nothing but perform well in those situations, and to expect something completely opposite is a little suspicious. And if you have a fairly thick bias, it might influence what parts of the interview you transcribe... how you phrase it... etc. It's very relevant.

 

Are you saying you don't support the Texans drafting Bush?

 

Yeah, someone who said that anyone who even thought Young was better than Leinart should be "taken out back and shot" sounds very objective to me.

Again, I'm not claiming that Young is definitely a better player than Leinart, or that he definitely will be. It's debatable. But to act as if there's no debate - which you did before the game - seems pretty hard to believe, even at that point in time.

 

Funny, remember this:

Not a chance. But it would be amusing to watch Young fail (not through any fault of his own, but the OL) while Carr went on to become a star elsewhere. Sadly, I'm getting the feeling we're going to have to go through two or three quarterbacks (all failing, of course) before some of the fans accept that the man under center is next to irrelevant as long as the line is this bad.

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What part of my post did you not read? I don't think any running back is worth a #1 pick because of cost and longelivity issues. I also don't think having 2 #1 picks on a team is a good thing. These are not things that scouts are looking at - they are looking at pure talent.

I also said that both have ridiculous upside and that Vince has numerous intangibles, which explains why I would pick him if you could get something for the other #1 pick on the team.

All of the questions you asked were answered in the very post you quoted.

 

If I were in charge, I would either draft Bush or trade the pick. So yeah if its a VY vs. RB issue then I choose to draft Reggie Bush.

 

Before that game Young wasn't in Leinart's class career wise. If Ut get's beat by 21 and VY plays like he did against A@M we aren't even talking right now.

Young had one of the best games ever in the National Championship. I've given him his credit. I've admitted I was wrong about USC. What more do you want? It seems to me like some of you think you're perfect and have never made incorrect predictions. Look at some of the comments pro Young people made a while back. It's the same damn thing. The only reason it's different for me or a couple others is because we favor Bush.

I am objective whether you choose to believe it or not. Young isn't even the clear cut #1 at QB. We can go over this 100 times but if you fell we need a QB if we can get good value for Carr then tell me why I haven't seen a single person argue for Leinart or show interest in Cutler.

 

So, who's "outnumbering" you? There are quite a few anti-VY guys here.

 

You clearly said at the end of your post "neither has proven to be worth the number 1 pick" referring to carr and Bush. So no, all my questions weren't answered in your post. You used reasing as to why you didn't think we should use our 1 on Bush and as to why you want VY but never as to why Bush hasn't proven he's worth it.

 

Are you kidding? It's not even close between Bush and Young supporters on this board. Go on any other teams board outside of Houston's and see what they think if you want unbiased opinions.

 

Gotcha. Going back to that. I thought USC would cover big time. I agreed with the sportsbooks. As far as saying VY would turn the ball over 5 times, that was an exageration to ruffle some feathers. It wasn't honestly what I thought would happen, (5 is an outlandish prediction, 1-2 turnovers, maybe, but 5?). I thought USC would cover, but I don't have an agenda against VY. Plus, a prediction of how a game will turn out vs. a recap on what you heard on the radio aren't related, but I get your point.

 

Because while both of those guys could be great QBs, the upside for Vince is huge. He could revolutionize the position. To some, that's worth taking the risk.

 

I couldn't give two ****s about what other boards outside of Houston think. On this board, it's pretty even for those who participate in these threads.

 

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