[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

He didn't play great every game nor every play, but he certainly was the dominant force for those 20+ games, particularly against the good teams. The fact he didn't have his best game versus lower comp when he didn't need to for Texas to win doesn't take away his winning streak.

 

Curtis Enis and Tommie frazier are looking for you for your comments made earlier. Frazier is kind of just tagging along but Enis is super pissed.

 

Not talking about Jesus, just the best college football player tons of long time watchers have ever seen. Not the college football player with the best cumulative stats, but the best guy to win a big college football game. Like I said there are still people to this day that say Gale Sayers was the best pro football player, but his cumulative NFL stats don't stand up at all. It all depends on your standards for greatest ever (greatest even for brief legendary moments, or greatest from sustained excellence).

 

I won't argue he played one of the best games I've ever seen. In having one of the best seasons I've ever seen (I'm only 27) I'll give you that too. In terms of having his jersey retired, being one of the all time greats, ect, I just simply don't agree.

Gale Sayers was a great back (so was Earl) but i don't think either of them were better then Barry sanders or Jim Brown.

 

it does take away from the comment "he dominated 20 games"", how about ou in 04 or missouri, or a&m in 05?

 

Ah, it goes back to Texas A&M like it always does with IC2k. I was getting worried. We managed to go a whole page on this thread without an Aggee reference.

 

When people and pro scouts evaluate players they always say the intangibles are the hardest to judge. Ryan Leaf scored off the charts on physical ability but he never had the leadership qualities to justify a Top10 pick. Why didn't anybody, anbody ever bring that up during the Manning/Leaf debates. And those debates were every bit as contentious as the Bush/Young debates.

What else would Vince have to do to convince people he has the intangibles to lead an NFL team? Maybe, maybe his Wunderlich tests to see if he has the smarts to read NFL defenses, but for leadership and composure, he's proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

(the only game I remember that Vince did not dominate in his last 20 games, since Oklahoma 05 was the A&M game, and he definitely did not dominate that one so it's maybe 19 out of his lat 20)

 

The Texans are actually in pretty good shape in that if we draft Bush we have a servicable QB in Carr to compliment him. If we draft Vince, DD is a serviceable running back to compliment him.

I think there is a good chance that both Vince and Reggie are gonna be solid pros, you just have to make an educated guess about which one has superstar potential (if not both).

Neither guy is gonna have much success in H-Town til we get the O-Line patched up. If I was GM I would really have to consider trading down for more help, but I would be afraid that the fan base revolt would be awful, and that we would be playing to half full stadiums in our 4th year of existance.

I think we are going to draft Reggie and try to sign some FA linemen.

As an old school Houston Oilers fatalist, I figure whichever one we don't draft out of VY and Reggie is gonna be the greatest player in NFL history, and we are going to hear about it for the next 30 years.

 

his stats were not dominant in his last 4 games of 2004 in addition to the missouri and oklahoma games that year. So 6 in 2004

 

my how far we have come !!!

 

Are ya'll actually arguing how many games VY dominated in a row? What's the point?

Everyone has seen what this guy can do, we've seen it against bad competition, and we've seen it against the elite teams in the NCAA. His intangibles and leadership ability is the best I have ever seen in college football, add that with his athleticism and much improved passing, you have a player who is w/o doubt one of the greatest college football players of all time and one of the biggest QB prospects to come out in a long long time.

Who cares if he didn't dominate a couple games? Everyone has bad days, no one is perfect.

 

I will not leave you out.

 

If someone is going to post BS on here I will disprove it

 

Finally! Something we all can agree on.

 

But dam! Could we possibly stand it if Vince goes to Bottomline Bud and becomes a superstar that beats us twice a year?

 

I can stand that a lot more, cosidering we already have a QB, than the other way around, with VY being a bust.

 

Hell ya I came a long way. My perception of VY changed with how he played on the field. The first half of his career he shared reps in practice and games, once VY and Brown loosened up, wow!!! If anything it shows I was skeptical and wasn't attached to him just because he was a Houston kid and 5* prospect. Incidently Simms has been better than I thought as a pro. Maybe Davis and Brown were screwing up a lot talent by being too tight until about midway through last year. Texas did best when Applewhite took control from the coaches, and later when VY took control.

BTW I looked pretty on target on SC and Leinart being light years ahead of White and OU last year now didn't I? On target with Harris and Huff emerging as players as well. I was pretty hard on Mack Brown (overreaction, sure), but the guy finally did loosen up. I still am not ready to do a ringing endorsement of Davis despite the accolades, it is pretty hard to screw up an offense with what VY became this year.

 

Awesome! You make excuses for your inaccuracies, and, at the same time, you brag about what you were right about.

Let Young go. He'll never play for a Texas team again. And you'll be fine with it in a year, just like last time.

 

Hello? Inaccuracies about what? VY not being a good QB/leader early last year but 20 some games later being about the best college player I have ever seen? VY did it based on his performance, he shown me and other skeptics to be wrong. You want me to stick my head in the sand like you guys and ignore what is obvious to everyone who hasn't gotten over their trama of VY/Texas kicking their butt? The dude is unreal. Now Fatty why don't you come out and admit you were wrong about him.

 

We must hold them under "the Kobe"!, that's what the cool people like to call 81 nowadays.