[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

That was my point. You just worded it better and spiced it up with an F-bomb.

 

If Fontes ever made it to the Super Bowl in that situation, he would have punted. So yeah, Sanders would have been on the sidelines

 

LOL. I guess I misunderstood your post.

Once again, you have no response to the argument at hand. Bush is/was the BEST player... the Heisman winner... the ESPN "Best Pro Prospect EVAH." Yet, he wasn't in the game, not even as a decoy. Why did Super Coach Genius, former Coach of the Year, leave the best player in college football to rot on the sidelines during the single biggest play of the entire season? ... AND HOW IS THAT NOT DAMNING EVIDENCE?

 

Zing!

 

I don't know what the hell carroll was thinking! He screwed up throughout the game

 

So you agree that Lendale is better than Bush, good.



4th and 5 and Vince Young is in the game leading his team to the national championship. 4th and 2 and Bush is standing on the sidelines praying he doesn't have come in and try to run up the middle.

 

This is so weak, my monitor almost turned itself off.

 

However it really wasn't just short yardage. It was 1st and 10, 2nd and 7, 3rd and 7, and 4th and 2. None of the plays were for Bush with a dynasty and perfect season on the line. This from the coaches who have watched every play in games or practices of the player.

Does anyone think Dorsett or Faulk or LT or Sanders wouldn't have had his number called four times in this situation in college? Four plays to get you 10 yards to win the national title. (Maybe not Barry in the pros, because of these 4 as great as he was with the home run play he was more likely than most of the great running backs to take negative plays and get his team in long yardage situations--but I don't want to get sidetracked to a debate about B.Sanders)

I want to add something here. It isn't even about 1 play. For two seasons Bush was not considered the 1st option for his team in the red zone AND when SC most needed to keep opponents off the field (churning 1st downs) they primarily turned to LenDale. The UT game was a microcism of how Carroll and his staff viewed his team. When the going got tough versus better defense and tension mounted LenDale was who they 1st choose as a pure 1st down maker.

And if someone wants to argue Carroll and his staff didn't use Bush properly, forget he rolled 580 on an excellent Texas defense (w/ no punts in the 2nd half), averaged 50PPG this season, and over those 30+ strait wins he lead made smart and gutsy enough calls to pull out 6 or so that were within a touchdown. I think his team had a pretty great offense trackrecord and you have a hard time convincing me he underutilized the strengths and weaknesses of his players. Just possibly had he turned to Bush more and LenDale less he makes Texas's job easier because it was LenDale and the interior of the OLine that were chewing up the Longhorns on the ground. He rode that horse as I darn well would have based on what I saw.

 

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There's some highlights for you. Enjoy! I think it was pretty obvious why SC kept Reggie on the sidelines for a good chunk of the second half. . . its cuz he stunk it up in the 1st half. For most of the game, UTs relatively fast defense were able to keep him from turning the corner and going upfield. Plus SC couldn't afford any 1) Loss of yards like on Reggie's first rush of the game or 2) Another boneheaded play like that lateral.

 

Y'know thinking back on it, I'm surprised RB wasn't pestering Carroll to put him during the second to last series where they missed the 4th and 2. Remember great players always want the ball in their hands when the game's on the line .

 

You are all missing the point, Bush was always spliiting carries with white. Not because Bush can't do that or white can't do this but because they both complement each other so well. They are both elite running backs. I hate how everyone points out Bush was on the sideline but does not realize its because they had two great running backs

 

Then how can you be so positive that he will be able to carry a full load?

 

So the better running back was on the field at that point?

 

for the 4th and two, yes i give it to white if i am running the ball up the middle. They could have put bush on the field and dumped it to him or ran something outside.

 

We are not, I want 15-20 carries with 3-5 catches.

 

Damning evidence for what? That he should drop to the #2 pick from the #1 pick? Or evidence that he's gonna suck in the NFL?

 

I think you are missing the point. If Bush is a 1/10000 type pure runner tailback like Dorsett, Faulk, LT or B. Sanders he would have gotten the ball all four times with a 1st and 10 needing one more 1st and 10 to win the national title. If Bush was among the best tailbacks in college history he would have been the 1st option, not the 2nd option or co-1st option to hand the ball to when your season is on the line. An oustanding and probable mid to late 1st round tailback like LenDale White would not get in the way of a guy who had already showed hall of fame like stuff as a pure runner. Bush hadn't shown that consistency and relentlessness on a defense from a tailback position to others that watched him and in particular his coaches, which is why he should not be considered a "sure thing" impact pro prospect along the lines of Dorsett, Faulk or B. Sanders.

In the end he could prove to be as good as these Hall of Famers, but he has a LONG way to go in his development and lots of questions about whether he will be a workhorse NFL tailback. He has just as far to go in this regard as VY does as showing he is John Elway, Joe Montana and Mike Vick rolled into one. I'd rather roll my dice for a future Elway/Montana than a Faulk/Sanders.

 

Than just get Drew or Calhoun or Reggie McNeal (turn him into a utility RB/WR like the Stealers guy) in the 2nd or 3rd round for this role and use your #1 overall pick for a guy who makes a profound impact every offensive or defensive snap.

 

maybe so, but bush could be very special.

By the way mcneal is a QB, check the article i posted earlier on him

 

I don't buy that they both have the same distance to go. VY has to develop all the mental aspects of the game that it takes to be a good QB. He has to improve his arm, his footwork and his reads. Bush just basically has to get stronger so he can break more tackles. They both have question marks but I think Bush is more of a sure thing.

I think VY fans notice that there are real questions about VY succeeding in the NFL so they are trying to say the question marks about Bush are just as serious when they really aren't.