[Official] Reggie Bush or Someone else -- Vince Young out of running

They were trying to run out the clock. Bush can't be punished for not being on the field. It is not his choice. He was sharing time with another great running back.

 

they were trying to get a first down. on the 2nd down play, they threw to the "other" running back. as best I could tell, bush wasn't in the game at all for that entire last sequence. a first down wins the game. it's why they went for it on 4th, to begin with. it's why they didn't cram the ball down the middle all 4 downs.

and i'm not punishing him...it just lends itself to some of the concerns about reggie. again..i'm not saying reggie will suck...or that he won't be great. i'm saying he's not a sure thing. i'm saying we don't know. i'm saying there is no lock.

 

Can anyone dig up a video of Reggie Bush getting Pete Carroll some Gatorade when it was 4th and 2 in the national champioship game against Texas this year? Thanks.

 

Yea well that he is not a sure thing is obvious, why he wasn't on the field does not matter

 

why he wasn't on the field absolutely matters. it goes to the heart of the concerns about him. it may not be Exhibit A...but it does lend itself to what scares people about bush.

 

On any other team he is on the field except for maybe the 4th down

 

Same reason Jerome Bettis comes in for the Steelers on short yardage situations. Bigger, heavier back gives you a better chance to get 2 yards. If it were 4th and 6, I think Bush would have been there.

 

Bush got 500 yards total against a bad fresno state defense. VY didn't do much against a bad A&M defense. Same with VY in the rose bowl, don't discredit his performance by blaming a bad USC defense. My point here is, stop blaming bad defenses for what a certain player did or did not do. That argument gets tired, both ways.

 

WHAT IF............................

Vince Young was drafted to play receiver. The Texans could sell to him that he could be a future quarterback if Carr doesn't improve. You bring the hometown kid home while putting him and Carr in the game. You can try and convince him that the scrambling quarter backs don't survive in this league. McNabb, Culpepper, and Vick have all missed at least a whole season due to injuries. He would have a longer/ healthier career as a receiver. I know he is a great quarterback but he would be a great playmaker as a receiver. I know he and Bush will both be great pros but realistically there are questions about both of them.

 

I'd be more inclined to tell Carr to learn how to punt or deep snap than telling Vince go be a receiver.

 

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I am sorry, but if you are running back and being considered as the overall #1 pick with two potential franchise QBs on the board you better be in the game if you team needs a 1st down to secure a title.

1st and 10, 2nd and 7, 3rd and 7 or 4 and 2 there is no way Tiki Barber is not in the game for the Giants.

Further, the idea of sitting a B. Sanders, Faulk, LT or Dorsett--which seems to be the comparison people want to make with Bush as a prospect, even if you have an excellent back-up like LenDale, is absolutely ludicres. Not that LenDale isn't excellent, but you have a guy who is already an "all world halfback", LenDale learns to play fullback and block for my all world guy or he waits his turn.

Now if you want to try to tell me Dorsett or Faulk or Sanders would have taken a seat for LenDale White in that situation go ahead and try. I would probably find the justification laughable, but give it a try. I have not seen a single pro-Bush guy take this issue head on.

 

Making lendale white a fullback is a joke. They complemented each other so well, why mess with what has been working for 34 straight games. Nobody realizes that these two runnning backs are arguably the two best in the draft. Bush has a weakness/question mark in short yardage situations. But this is not why we are drafting him. Just like we don't want Vince for his amazing precision and arm. Its his other attributes. What is ludicres? That is not a word!

 

If the future #1 pick in the NFL draft (at a skill position) cannot be counted on for the most important play in college football this season (and possibly his career up until this point)... then he just might not be worthy of the #1 pick. That he's not even IN THE GAME for that all-important play (barring injury) shows he's definitely not worthy of the #1 pick.

This argument sickens you because you have no real response to it, plain and simple. Barry would've been in the game. LaDainian would've been in the game. Bush could've at LEAST been used as a decoy. But he wasn't there. And that speaks volumes, whether you like it or not.

 

Perhaps we need to ask Bush why he decided to sit out most of the second half.

 

I'm pretty sure Wayne Fontes pulled Barry Sanders out on short-yardage and goal-line situations for bigger backs quite frequently. Fontes would often stick someone like Derek Moore in. I sort of understood, because Barry got tackled for losses a lot. But I hated the strategy, because Barry was the only reason I ever watched Lions' games.

I never followed Faulk's, Tomlinson's, or Dorsett's careers closely, so I can't comment on those guys. I don't think Bush will be Barry's equal though. Barry had no fullbacks or tight ends to block for him because of the "Silver Streak", and still racked up 1500 yard seasons because he had some insane moves I've never seen before or since.

 

speaking of wayne fontes:

separated at birth?

 

You don't think Carroll's decision not to use Bush speaks volumes? We're talking about the f**king 2005 Heisman trophy winner, awarded to the best player in college football. There is ZERO excuse, besides injury, for why he wasn't on the field. ZIP. ZILCH. You don't find that damning?

That's why he's Wayne Fontes, owner of a 67-71 overall record. He won exactly 1 playoff game in 9 years. Okay, okay. Suppose Fontes actually made it to the Super Bowl. With 4th and 2 in the big game, protecting a lead late in the 4th quarter, do you REALLY think Sanders would be on the sidelines?

 

They did not even make the first down!!! I wonder why? Bush did not ask to come out! He was not out there and they did not make the first down. Just because he was not out there, does not mean he could not get the job done. At that point they had another idea/option and a really good one at that. Its not like they had some loser running back in, it was Lendale Freaking White.

 

He would be if they had lendale white also!!!!!